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albedoa 6 hours ago

This is some real title gore, and I don't know who is to blame. As it appears:

> Microsoft is employing dark patterns to goad users into paying for storage?

That Microsoft is employing dark patterns is neither surprising nor a question. Can you explain this gross departure from the actual title jpmitchell[1]? Here is the original for reference:

> How Microsoft abuses its users

This is much more interesting and accurate.

1. https://news.ycombinator.com/user?id=jpmitchell

dang an hour ago | parent | next [-]

I've responded to the bit about the title here: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47713835.

Separately from that: can you please stop posting so aggressively to HN? You've repeatedly crossed into personal attack. We ban accounts that do that, and I don't want to ban you, so if you'd please review https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html and take the intended spirit of the site more to heart, we'd be grateful. We can't have users throwing elbows like this:

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47526685 (March 2026)

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47512697 (March 2026)

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47512669 (March 2026)

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47480879 (March 2026)

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47434614 (March 2026)

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47373748 (March 2026)

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47342398 (March 2026)

All of those comments are in serious conflict with the intended spirit of HN, and unfortunately you've posted many more of those than I've listed here. In fact, it's been a problem for years:

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=31393023 (May 2022)

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=17832778 (Aug 2018)

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=11781469 (May 2016)

Not cool.

jpmitchell 4 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

I have no idea what happened. I literally just copy and pasted my post title for the submission. I assume there's some form of active curation going on. I've only recently started posting my content to Hacker News so I'm not sure yet.

slater 4 hours ago | parent | next [-]

It's well-known that HN mods will edit submission titles to reduce chances of flamewars/axe-grindiness in the discussions. Not saying that's what happened here, but not a new thing.

albedoa 4 hours ago | parent [-]

I would love to hear the excuse that the mods have for this title change. Good luck to them!

slater 4 hours ago | parent [-]

Excuse? They don't need an excuse, "How Microsoft abuses its users" isn't very descriptive. The edited title reduces the heat and gives more info.

jpmitchell 3 hours ago | parent | next [-]

That's a fair point. I enjoy being a _bit_ provocative, but that title might have been a bit much.

dang an hour ago | parent [-]

Yes, it's fairly straightforward - if a title is too baity, we edit it, in keeping with this guideline:

"Please use the original title, unless it is misleading or linkbait." - https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

However, when we do that, we always try to find a representative phrase within the article itself. We try not to make up our own wording but rather to let the article speak for itself. In this case, we found this sentence:

> Microsoft is very obviously employing dark patterns in order to goad its users into paying for Onedrive storage

However, since that's also a provocative claim, we added a question mark at the end. This is also a standard moderation edit; it's basically shorthand for "the article argues for controversial claim X, but whether that's true or not is something each reader can decide for themselves". In this way the title that appears on the frontpage becomes more neutral, which is what we're going for.

Dylan16807 an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-]

The question mark is pretty bad though.

albedoa 3 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

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slater 3 hours ago | parent [-]

Okeydokey, then.

albedoa 4 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

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