| ▲ | baggachipz 5 hours ago | |||||||||||||||||||||||||
I drove into a very affluent subdivision this weekend, and like most others around here it had a flock camera recording every car on the way in. This camera, however, had the gall to advertise its presence as a neighborhood security measure. "Flock Safety watches this neighborhood" read the sign on the post, or some such. Of course the residents there had no choice but to accept its installation, as the local police support it. Nefarious framing and marketing in the name of "safety". | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| ▲ | ggreer 27 minutes ago | parent | next [-] | |||||||||||||||||||||||||
It's probably the neighborhood HOA that pays for it. My HOA got Flock cameras after a string of thefts, and has similar signs up. The HOA encourages homeowners to submit their car license plate info so that if a crime is reported, it's easier to identify cars that don't belong to homeowners. Soon after the cameras were installed, some thieves stole a gift my brother had sent me. Thanks to license plate data and images of their faces, Vancouver PD had little trouble catching the perpetrators. It turned out that in addition to stealing Amazon/UPS/Fedex packages, they were stealing USPS mail and using it to commit identity theft. IIRC they ended up getting a decade in federal prison. It seems like only a few people are responsible for the majority of thefts, so catching them and locking them up drastically improves quality of life for everyone else. Obviously this technology could be abused, but that's also true for things like fingerprinting, DNA evidence, and ID requirements. Similarly to those technologies, we could have laws restricting certain uses, allowing us to reduce crime while preventing abuses. But if a private community wants to install cameras and allow law enforcement to access the data they record, I don't see any constitutional issues. | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| ▲ | bob1029 5 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | |||||||||||||||||||||||||
> no choice but to accept its installation You might be shocked to discover there are subdivisions so affluent they can afford physical armed security and access control structures with far more invasive identification and logging procedures. | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||
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| ▲ | bradleyankrom 5 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | |||||||||||||||||||||||||
I saw the same thing in a Home Depot parking lot yesterday. I guess I'm glad there's some sort of notice about it, even if its intent is more, I dunno, branding? It took me a while to figure out what all the solar panel + camera on a post installations were as they popped up around my town. I even pulled over to inspect the hardware for signs of ownership and didn't find anything. | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| ▲ | SoftTalker 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | |||||||||||||||||||||||||
Most of the houses probably have little yard signs advertising some security service, and stickers on the doors advertising an alarm company too. | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||
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| ▲ | whimsicalism 5 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | |||||||||||||||||||||||||
we enforce laws presumably in the name of safety, is this really nefarious framing or marketing? seems pretty straightforward to me. | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||
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| ▲ | HoldOnAMinute 4 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | |||||||||||||||||||||||||
Monte Sereno or Saratoga? | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||