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stared 7 hours ago

Filesystem is a tree - a particular, constrained graph. Advanced topics usually require a lot of interconnections.

Maybe it is why mind maps never spoke to me. I felt that a tree structure (or even - planar graphs) were not enough to cover any sufficiently complex topic.

nutjob2 7 hours ago | parent | next [-]

If it has hard or soft links, its a proper graph.

zahlman 6 hours ago | parent | next [-]

On Linux at least, hard links can't be made to directories, except for the magic . and .. links. So this only allows for a DAG.

Symbolic links can form a graph, and you can process them as needed using readlink etc. to traverse the graph, but they'll still be considered broken if they form a cycle.

Retr0id 6 hours ago | parent [-]

Considered broken by what?

rleigh 5 hours ago | parent [-]

Historically, it made deletion rather difficult with some problematic edge-cases. You could unlink a directory and create an orphan cycle that would never be deleted. Combine that with race conditions on a multi-user systems, plus the indeterminate cost of cycle-detection, and it turns out to be a rather complex problem to solve properly, and banning hard-links is a very simple way to keep the problem tractable, and result in fast, robust and reliable filesystem operations.

Retr0id 5 hours ago | parent [-]

GP was talking about symlink cycles though, which can't produce orphans during deletion.

rleigh 4 hours ago | parent [-]

True, I missed that. I suppose with symlinks you have the reverse problem: you can point to deleted filenames and then have broken links. The cycle detection is still an issue though--it has indeterminate complexity and the graph can be modified as you are traversing it!

Retr0id 3 hours ago | parent [-]

This is true, but just about everyone has a symlink cycle on their system at `/proc/self/root`, and for the most part nobody notices. Having a max recursion depth is usually more useful than actively trying to detect cycles.

calgoo 6 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

That what i was thinking! Instead of Wiki links, use Symlinks (i guess windows would not like it?)

vinaigrette 3 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Isn't text a basic linear structure that can cover sufficiently complex topics ?

stared 3 hours ago | parent [-]

Yes. And precisely for this reason reading a dictionary is not a way of learning a language.