| ▲ | chatmasta 9 hours ago |
| Better article with text: https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2026/apr/07/trump-iran-w... > Israel will also agree to the two-week ceasefire, Axios reported, citing an Israeli official, adding that the ceasefire would enter effect as soon as the blockade of the strait of Hormuz ceased There’s the catch. |
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| ▲ | Rotdhizon 9 hours ago | parent | next [-] |
| The US is one thing but there is no possible way Israel will stop bombing. They will openly say they will, and continue to do so. It just gives them more breathing room to calculate bigger and more serious strikes. Israel has literally nothing to lose. The US is taking all the heat for any actions in Iran. Israel and Iran are mortal enemies, one can not continue to exist while the other lives, this is how they view it. Iran wants Israel erased, Israel wants Iran erased. This isn't going to stop until one of them suffers catastrophic damage. |
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| ▲ | Bubble1296 8 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | I believe from what I have heard and read that Israel will likely only stop if US formally withdraws military support in a sense that they stop supplying weapons (?) | |
| ▲ | henry2023 8 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | If the war (population displacement / genocide / ethnic cleansing, you can call it however you want to) in Gaza has taught the world something is that the current Israeli regime is visceral and they clearly think they are above any international conventions. Of course they will not stop bombing any of its neighbors until we 1) stop funding and 2) start sanctioning them for their war crimes. I wonder if regime change could help alleviate the tensions in the region. | |
| ▲ | ajsnigrutin 8 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | > Israel has literally nothing to lose. Israel has a lot to lose, the question is only how much of the lost will be replaced by american taxpayers' money. They're almost out of anti-air interceptors, the war they started in lebanon is going badly and iran still has tens of thousands of drones left. There's also hamas and hezbollah and more and more of the world is turning against them, be it in proper politics or even mundane stuff like the eurovision. And it's not just the aljazeera and similar media, the israelis said it themselves: https://www.timesofisrael.com/zamir-said-to-warn-cabinet-tha... | |
| ▲ | testing22321 8 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | If we have to choose, it seems the world would be better off without Israel committing genocide | | |
| ▲ | daliusd 7 hours ago | parent [-] | | Israel can do better, but Israel committing genocide is not the fact legally. | | |
| ▲ | consp 3 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | The strict definition of the Geneva conventions does not include forced displacement but in some parts of the world that is included in the definition of. And legality is a matter of tribunal and none has been held so far. | | | |
| ▲ | tovej 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | It is a fact factually, however. I could witness a murder and the murderer committing murder would still not be a fact legally. It's still a fact. | | |
| ▲ | daliusd an hour ago | parent [-] | | Murder and genocide is not the same. Genocide has strict definition. | | |
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| ▲ | blitzar 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | "If it doesn't fit, you must acquit" followed closely by the bestseller "If I Did It: Confessions of the Genocider" |
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| ▲ | spaghetdefects 8 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | [flagged] | | | |
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| ▲ | ceejayoz 9 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| Israel seems likely to do anything they can to start things up again. |
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| ▲ | bawolff 9 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | They dont have to do anything but wait. Its only a 2 week ceasefire. | | |
| ▲ | moogly 8 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | Usually Israel does not even wait a day to break a ceasefire. | |
| ▲ | ceejayoz 9 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | When Trump says his healthcare plan or infrastructure plan come “in two weeks” it means never. |
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| ▲ | whalesalad 8 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | They already have | |
| ▲ | rvz 9 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | They will try for a last minute "false flag" to bait the US to think that Iran broke the ceasefire first as always. To Downvoters: You do understand that it was Israel that attacked first right? They are not happy with this provisional ceasefire agreement. | |
| ▲ | ferongr 8 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | [flagged] | | |
| ▲ | computerex 8 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | Being anti Zionist is the only moral position. | | |
| ▲ | gizajob 8 hours ago | parent [-] | | [flagged] | | |
| ▲ | computerex 7 hours ago | parent [-] | | All bigotry is bad. Islamic extremists trying to eliminate Jews are bad, Jewish extremists hellbent on eliminating Arabs/muslims are bad. All humans are equal. No to apartheid and genocide. | | |
| ▲ | throwaway290 7 hours ago | parent [-] | | I don't know why you are downvoted for saying "bigotry is bad" however you make a mistake when you call zionism apartheid or genocide.
there are religious extremists who use this word like it's some sort of "lebensraum" but that's just a specific type of zionism. source https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Types_of_Zionism actually zionism just an idea that jews can have a country where their ancestors lived. everybody in the world wants the same thing but no one needed to invent a term because most people already have a country where their ancestors lived. there's a metric ton of christian and muslim countries around if you look. | | |
| ▲ | computerex 6 hours ago | parent [-] | | > actually zionism just an idea that jews can have a country where their ancestors lived. If Zionism means that Jews are entitled to their ancestral lands at the expense of the people that have been living on those lands for thousands of years, then that is a perverse idea. No one, regardless of your race/religion/ethnicity has the right to displace a group of people. If Zionism means apartheid and genocide of the Palestinians, then I am against zionism. | | |
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| ▲ | ceejayoz 8 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | They don’t seem to agree https://x.com/AP/status/2041689524955222201 |
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| ▲ | dang 9 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| Ok, I've switched the link above to that and put the submitted URL in the toptext. If there are other good links, we can add them. |
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| ▲ | akabalanza 9 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| They will stop bombing as soon as Iran comes back to the situation for which it was bombed. |
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| ▲ | tmnvix 8 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| Yes, seems a bit of a gap between US and Iranian opinions on the state of the strait. US says "open it", while Iran has for some time claimed it is open - only subject to conditions. Then, as you mention, the Israelis talk of an end to the blockade. I foresee a possible relaxation of conditions on the strait by Iran while keeping their hand on the lever providing substantial leverage during any actual negotiations. I also note that it seems the US are considering Iranian demands - not the other way around. Even with that, Trumps' toughest negotiations may be with the Israelis. |
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| ▲ | nickvec 9 hours ago | parent | prev [-] |
| Yep. No way they’re opening the Strait of Hormuz until the US/Israel gets the fuck out of Iran. |
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| ▲ | chasd00 9 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | They’re not in Iran. Both countries have announced an end to offensive operations in the past half hour or so. | | |
| ▲ | nickvec 9 hours ago | parent [-] | | I thought it was only for two weeks? Unless I'm missing some big news. |
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| ▲ | bawolff 9 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | And no way US stops bombing them unless they open the strait (I say US because Israel doesnt care about the strait). I think such an agreement is plausible. Trump really cares about oil prices, and i imagine Iranian leadership would really like to stop being bombed. | | |
| ▲ | computerex 8 hours ago | parent [-] | | There is no military solution to open the strait. The fact is that Iran is not unarmed children of Gaza. Iran has capability to hit back. Iran can set alight the gulf states and cripple the world economy. You can’t bomb your way through everything. | | |
| ▲ | bawolff 5 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | > There is no military solution to open the strait. There is no cheap & fast military solution. There are certainly military solutions if you are ok with it taking a while or costing a lot of lives. > Iran has capability to hit back They have demonstrated they can make the surounding countries miserable. They arent capable of actually getting a military victory. Which is why a deal is plausible. USA doesnt want to spend (in money and lives) what it would cost to open the strait. Iran demonstrates it can hit back enough to be annoying but not enough to force a victory. Sounds like neither side is exactly capable of "winning" (without us spending more than it wants), so a deal sounds plausible. | |
| ▲ | throwaway290 6 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | [flagged] |
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