| ▲ | poisonarena 5 hours ago |
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| ▲ | NonHyloMorph 3 hours ago | parent | next [-] |
| "Israel's defence minister has said a buffer zone will be set up inside southern Lebanon and that Israel will keep security control over a swathe of the territory even after the end of the current war against the armed group Hezbollah." Src》https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c5yx8knpr5no "JERUSALEM, March 31 (Reuters) - Israel will destroy all homes in Lebanese villages near the border and 600,000 people who fled the south will not be allowed home until northern Israel is secure, the defence minister said on Tuesday, vowing to inflict Gaza-like destruction in the area.
Israel Katz reiterated Israeli plans to establish a buffer zone in southern Lebanon, saying that it would maintain control over a swathe of territory up to the Litani River once the war with the Iran-backed Hezbollah group ended." Src》https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/israel-destroy-all... I wish it wasn't like this but there's no point in not facing reality |
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| ▲ | poisonarena 2 hours ago | parent [-] | | sounds like an effective way to create a buffer zone, i dont see anything wrong here | | |
| ▲ | NonHyloMorph 11 minutes ago | parent [-] | | The sovereignity of foreign states and there territorial integrity according to international law. "Under present international law, annexation no longer constitutes a legally admissible mode of acquisition of territory as it violates the prohibition of the threat or use of force (Use of Force, Prohibition of). Therefore annexations must not be recognized as legal." Src》https://opil.ouplaw.com/display/10.1093/law:epil/97801992316... Put simply: You must not just build a buffer zone on someone elses territory. (You of course can build one on you own as you wish) |
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| ▲ | selimthegrim 5 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| Does Iranian militants mean every local Shiite that Israel is now expelling? |
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| ▲ | YZF 5 hours ago | parent [-] | | Israel is instructing civilians to leave the areas where there is fighting as is their responsibility under international law. When Hezbollah is disarmed by Lebanon and the war is over they can return. | | |
| ▲ | PowerElectronix 4 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | Do people keep falling for these arguments after all the times it hasn't been the case? | | |
| ▲ | YZF 3 hours ago | parent [-] | | It's been the case in all the previous wars fought in Lebanon. The question is why do people keep falling for the arguments against Israel when clearly Israel was attacked from Lebanon, is not attacking any neighbor that does not attack it, and is responding just like any other normal country would when it is attacked. | | |
| ▲ | ahhhhnoooo an hour ago | parent | next [-] | | I think you might be the one falling for propaganda, my friend. Hamas is evil. Hezbollah is evil. Their behavior is indefensible. Responding by leveling the homes of millions of civilians, holding people in an open air prison. Limiting food, water, and medicine, killing journalists, building an apartheid state, systematically using rape as a means of controlling prisoners, deploying white phosphorus on civilian populations.... these are not just or reasonable responses. Israel's actions are truly horrifying in scale. The violence aimed at civilians, the systemic abuse of people just trying to survive on subsistence. I'm not falling for any arguments. I'm simply observing what Israel is doing and saying, "this is truly awful. The scale of misery they are deploying against their enemies is unconscionable." | |
| ▲ | oa335 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | > Israel … is not attacking any neighbor that does not attack it Incorrect. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israeli_attack_on_Doha https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israeli_airstrike_on_the_Irani... | | |
| ▲ | YZF 2 hours ago | parent [-] | | Israel went after Hamas in Doha and not after Qatar as a country. Does this really prove your point? EDIT: exploring the legality of this with AI: The "Unwilling or Unable" Doctrine: A major debate in international law is whether a state can use force in self-defense against a non-state actor located in another sovereign state. Some nations (like the US and Israel) argue for the "unwilling or unable" standard. This doctrine suggests that if a host state (e.g., Qatar) is unwilling or unable to stop a non-state actor (e.g., Hamas) from using its territory to direct or launch attacks, the victim state (Israel) has the right to use force within the host state's borders to defend itself. Violations of Sovereignty: Conversely, many states and legal experts reject the "unwilling or unable" doctrine. Article 2(4) of the UN Charter strictly prohibits the use of force against the territorial integrity of another state. From this viewpoint, executing a strike in Qatar without Qatari consent or a UN Security Council mandate would be viewed as an illegal act of aggression and a violation of Qatar's sovereignty. I think my overall point still stands though that in the absences of aggression towards Israel Israel would not be attacking. The exact threshold though is obviously something we debate- e.g. whether simply hosting the leadership of Hamas is enough of a reason to take military action. But it's a reason (i.e. Israel had some self-defense justification). |
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| ▲ | IX-103 4 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | How did that work out for the Palestinians? | | | |
| ▲ | bdangubic 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | I live in Washington DC area, I am cool not to leave? | | |
| ▲ | YZF 3 hours ago | parent [-] | | The Pentagon e.g. would be a legitimate target for Iran and if in their operations against the US they know that your neighborhood is a military target then they can and should warn you and allow you to leave. I doubt that the US military stores rockets in your basement but if they are then that would be a concern. That said if you were in range of Iran's rockets I don't think they'd worry much about e.g. firing cluster munitions on Washington DC like they do on Tel Aviv or Israeli cities. | | |
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| ▲ | YorickPeterse 3 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | Just like Gaza right? Oh wait... |
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| ▲ | Zealotux 5 hours ago | parent | prev [-] |
| Keep on blaming the victims, as if you would have any say the day armed and organized militias would come into your neighborhood to do the same. |
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| ▲ | ahhhhnoooo 5 hours ago | parent [-] | | The person you are replying to is probably someone who won't understand that the genocide Israel is perpetrating, the settler colonialism, the systemic abuses and torture and rape of prisoners, the invasion are all justified somehow. Some people cannot take a step back and consider other perspectives, unfortunately. Edit: see? Their response, "I like it"? This person is deeply troubled and misanthropic. | | |
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| ▲ | YZF 5 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | Israel isn't colonizing Lebanon or abusing and torturing Lebanese. But Lebanon certainly abuses prisoners:
https://www.hrw.org/report/2013/06/26/its-part-job/ill-treat... So by your logic it is fair game to attack Lebanon due to its treatment of prisoners? Lebanon also commits war crimes by firing rockets indiscriminately into Israeli population centers. Why is your rage so selective? | | |
| ▲ | ahhhhnoooo an hour ago | parent | next [-] | | I didn't say this was all happening in Lebanon. The West Bank, Gaza, prisons across Israel. And now, an invasion and razing civilian lives in Lebanon. | |
| ▲ | oa335 3 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | > Israel isn’t … abusing and torturing Lebanese. Israeli-backed army ran a torture center in south Lebanon for years. https://www.hrw.org/news/1999/10/27/israel-responsible-abuse... Given the level of bloodthirst in Israeli society currently, and the accounts of torture of Palestinians in Israeli custody, I’m afraid that something similar is just around the corner for Lebanese as well. | | |
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