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selimthegrim 3 hours ago

Does Iranian militants mean every local Shiite that Israel is now expelling?

YZF 3 hours ago | parent [-]

Israel is instructing civilians to leave the areas where there is fighting as is their responsibility under international law. When Hezbollah is disarmed by Lebanon and the war is over they can return.

PowerElectronix 2 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Do people keep falling for these arguments after all the times it hasn't been the case?

YZF an hour ago | parent [-]

It's been the case in all the previous wars fought in Lebanon.

The question is why do people keep falling for the arguments against Israel when clearly Israel was attacked from Lebanon, is not attacking any neighbor that does not attack it, and is responding just like any other normal country would when it is attacked.

oa335 35 minutes ago | parent [-]

> Israel … is not attacking any neighbor that does not attack it

Incorrect.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israeli_attack_on_Doha

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israeli_airstrike_on_the_Irani...

YZF 19 minutes ago | parent [-]

Israel went after Hamas in Doha and not after Qatar as a country. Does this really prove your point?

EDIT: exploring the legality of this with AI:

The "Unwilling or Unable" Doctrine: A major debate in international law is whether a state can use force in self-defense against a non-state actor located in another sovereign state. Some nations (like the US and Israel) argue for the "unwilling or unable" standard. This doctrine suggests that if a host state (e.g., Qatar) is unwilling or unable to stop a non-state actor (e.g., Hamas) from using its territory to direct or launch attacks, the victim state (Israel) has the right to use force within the host state's borders to defend itself.

Violations of Sovereignty: Conversely, many states and legal experts reject the "unwilling or unable" doctrine. Article 2(4) of the UN Charter strictly prohibits the use of force against the territorial integrity of another state. From this viewpoint, executing a strike in Qatar without Qatari consent or a UN Security Council mandate would be viewed as an illegal act of aggression and a violation of Qatar's sovereignty.

I think my overall point still stands though that in the absences of aggression towards Israel Israel would not be attacking. The exact threshold though is obviously something we debate- e.g. whether simply hosting the leadership of Hamas is enough of a reason to take military action. But it's a reason (i.e. Israel had some self-defense justification).

IX-103 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

How did that work out for the Palestinians?

YZF an hour ago | parent [-]

Has Hamas disarmed yet?

bdangubic 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

I live in Washington DC area, I am cool not to leave?

YZF an hour ago | parent [-]

The Pentagon e.g. would be a legitimate target for Iran and if in their operations against the US they know that your neighborhood is a military target then they can and should warn you and allow you to leave. I doubt that the US military stores rockets in your basement but if they are then that would be a concern. That said if you were in range of Iran's rockets I don't think they'd worry much about e.g. firing cluster munitions on Washington DC like they do on Tel Aviv or Israeli cities.

bdangubic 14 minutes ago | parent [-]

oh I’m not worried about Iran :)

YorickPeterse 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Just like Gaza right? Oh wait...