> let every citizen use whatever computer they want.

That's just not possible, or should the system be legally required to run on an Apple II?

seba_dos1 11 hours ago | parent | next [-]

It should be legally required to provide enough interoperation capabilities for a compatible frontend to be written for an Apple II by whoever would like to do that, as the government can't be expected to write and maintain clients for every platform that's now in existence or that will be created in future.

If only currently popular platforms are to be supported, how could a new platform join them in the future if the use of existing ones is mandated by governments?

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Avamander 5 hours ago | parent [-]

> If only currently popular platforms are to be supported, how could a new platform join them in the future if the use of existing ones is mandated by governments?

The viable solution for that is to provide a trusted hardware implementation that can be used with any computing platform that has a documented interface. It can't be a software-only implementation, basically.

	▲	vslira 5 hours ago \| parent [-]
		Glad you mentioned this possibility Countries have centuries of experience providing attestation services through notaries. Germany is even infamous for requiring them for things that would sound ridiculous even in Brazil (both movie and country) I can’t see why governments couldn’t incorporate this existing infrastructure into the digital world. Make them sell hardware ID wallets, enforce the real identity owner to be present to invalidate a previous ID or whatever, and add legal restrictions for the government not be able to alter these registries

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jmorenoamor 10 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

No, but it should be open enough to be reasonably independent of specific services and devices.

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cocoto 11 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Simple, provide a simple API, let the community build the clients for the machines they have.

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direwolf20 11 hours ago | parent [-]

That's antithetical to the goal of a secure ID. It has to be really impossible to get stolen, or as difficult as a physical card. If the ID is just a password, you can tell other people your password, and it can be stolen, and it can be cloned. Germany is a strict liability country, and you will be fined or imprisoned for anything that is done with your identity card that was cloned because your PC was infected by malware if you don't report it stolen.

	▲	AlBugdy 4 hours ago \| parent \| next [-]
		> If the ID is just a password, you can tell other people your password, and it can be stolen, and it can be cloned. You can give your physical cards to other people or give them access to your computers, too. > Germany is a strict liability country, and you will be fined or imprisoned for anything that is done with your identity card that was cloned because your PC was infected by malware if you don't report it stolen. I don't see an issue with this.
	▲	inexcf 5 hours ago \| parent \| prev [-]
		And as we know it is impossible to give someone your physical card.

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realo 9 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

The problem to solve is trust.

The technical solution is a hardware root of trust. This is typically a specially hardened chip in the device. A Trusted Platform Module (TPM).

Your Apple ][ does not have a TPM. It cannot run software that can assess it's identity in a trusted manner.

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7bit 9 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

You can make an argument without pulling it into the ridiculous, you know?