The fact that he has done countless things that are harmful to the US and not a single thing that is in the country's best interests tells me all I need to know. Either he's aligned with an enemy or he just hates the country and wants to destroy it.

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hax0ron3 an hour ago | parent [-]

I disagree with probably the majority of Trump's main policy ideas, but I think a strong case can be made that his immigration policies are in the country's best interests. Not all of them, but as a whole.

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Larrikin an hour ago | parent [-]

Why do you think that?

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hax0ron3 an hour ago | parent [-]

Illegal immigration brings masses of people from more corrupt, disordered, and perhaps lower average intelligence societies into the US in conditions that make it hard for even the ones who are capable of assimilation to assimilate. It also constitutes a massive flouting of the law for the benefit of business, which sets a bad precedent and lowers public trust in institutions. It also contributes to rising racial tensions that encourage the growth of ethnic tribalism and weaken trust in liberalism.

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avidiax an hour ago | parent [-]

If you really want to get rid of illegal immigrants, you don't need ICE doing sweeps.

Just make them unemployable. Setup an effective employment eligibility system, and require that employers verify the workers in the system before any payment over $100. Collect biometrics from workers and verify against IRS records. Employers that flout this get fines of 10x wages paid, up to N% of revenue, and maybe jailtime for owners and managers that knowingly violate.

What we have in the U.S. is a bunch of people and politicians loudly decrying illegal immigration and illegal employment, but enjoying the fruits of that illegal employment while paying a fraction of what legal workers would have to be paid.

There's huge appetite for a police state against the little guy, and no appetite for that same police state against business owners and managers.

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hax0ron3 an hour ago | parent [-]

I agree that your idea would be better. That said, it is still quite possible that even Trump's immigration approach is overall more good than bad for the country.

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unsnap_biceps 39 minutes ago | parent | next [-]

It's really not. They're deporting less people than Biden did during the same time[1]. They're spending record amounts of money per person deported as well.

I don't disagree that we should be deporting people faster, but this is not the way to accomplish that goal at all. Nor should we be building huge detention facilities. We should be making the process go smoother and faster, not holding people.

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deportation_in_the_second_Trum...

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	▲	hax0ron3 33 minutes ago \| parent \| prev [-]
		Even if Trump's approach is worse than Biden's, which I'm not sure of, that still does not mean it is bad for the country. Counting deportations alone does not count people who decide not to come at all. Also, note that I did not say that we should necessarily be deporting more people. I am actually pretty neutral on illegal immigration. But I am trying to address the question of what is good for the country, which is a different thing from what my personal preferences are.

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fakedang 2 minutes ago | parent | prev [-]

Trump's immigration approach is not an approach - it's just an excuse for him to create his own Gestapo.

What was the point of sending ICE, a "domestic" agency, to the Winter Olympics, or letting them take over duties from the TSA? What does an "Immigration and Customs Enforcement" agency have anything to do at a foreign country? What's the point of the Secret Service then?