| ▲ | isubkhankulov 9 hours ago |
| The crew of the IRIS Dena were warned twice by the US to abandon ship according to a report from one of the sailor’s father. They refused. Not sure if it’s possible to treat enemies better than that. And I doubt the Iranians will treat a US pilot well. Look at how they treat their own citizens. |
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| ▲ | CobrastanJorji 6 hours ago | parent | next [-] |
| The ship was an unarmed vessel on its way to a goodwill visit to Sri Lanka and coming from an international maritime exercise hosted by India, which the United States also attended and participated in. The US torpedoed it, and when it sank, the US did not apparently attempt to rescue any of the Dena's crew. Fortunately, Sri Lanka showed up and saved 30 people. Mind you, the details of war are not always clear. The US says that the ship was armed, and it also says that they did make an effort to rescue the crew. The US does not explain why it failed to actually rescue anybody, of course. |
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| ▲ | voganmother42 6 hours ago | parent [-] | | The US is busy shooting “drug boats” with no evidence, that is who they are now | | |
| ▲ | monooso 2 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | I believe the phrase you're reaching for is "carrying out extra-judicial executions of civilians alleged to have been smuggling drugs." | |
| ▲ | SV_BubbleTime 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | I thought the people claiming they might be fishing boats with no fishing gear, 55gallon drums, in specially designed hulls with 6 engines, hauling ass out of known drug ports were just joking. | | |
| ▲ | voganmother42 6 minutes ago | parent [-] | | Yeah, why check right? Not like we need evidence or any investigation… I saw some people leaving a known drug house yesterday, but fortunately I gunned down the whole family, no questions asked! |
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| ▲ | asdff 7 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| If the source below is correct, the commander of the Dena ordered his troops to stay on the ship despite the warnings, there was a bit of a mutiny and the survivors are those who rejected those orders and jumped off. https://www.iranintl.com/en/202603071125 |
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| ▲ | ok_dad 6 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | OK if I come to your car, declare you’re my enemy, and tell you to get out before I toss a Molotov at you, does that mean I can’t be tried for murder later if you refuse? This was a sneak attack outside of an established war zone, for an illegal war, so don’t try to conflate this as an attack on America’s enemies. The USA made them their enemies themselves. | | |
| ▲ | AnimalMuppet 4 hours ago | parent [-] | | A sneak attack where they warned them twice first? Come on. | | |
| ▲ | computerex 3 hours ago | parent [-] | | They were in international waters. This was literally a war crime according to international law. Even the killing of the Supreme leader was against international law. | | |
| ▲ | osiris970 3 hours ago | parent [-] | | Not that I am supporting the war, against what statue is killing khamenei? You are targeting a military leader in an arm conflict. Seems clear cut | | |
| ▲ | computerex 2 hours ago | parent [-] | | The entire attack was illegal under international law:
https://law.stanford.edu/2026/03/03/stanfords-allen-weiner-o... https://www.newser.com/story/384710/legality-of-khameneis-ki... His daughter, son-in-law, and grandchildren were civilians.
Intentionally targeting civilians is a war crime.
Even if they were not targeted directly, an attack is illegal if:
it fails to minimize civilian harm, or
the civilian casualties are disproportionate to the military advantage International law is very clear on this point. | | |
| ▲ | dudul 2 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | A law only has value if it can be enforced. Who's going to enforce this international law exactly? | |
| ▲ | osiris970 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | I don't believe you can minimize civilian damage more than that, if a target is always among civilians.
You can only push so much, like the pager attack was probably the most minimizing one, but obviously and unfortunately civilians still got caught. For the international law part, interesting debate i think, where the state acts in self-defense if it has sustained an “armed attack” by its adversary;. Obviously this is very broad, but i think you can easily argue the last 40 year of fire exchanges as a continued armed attack. | | |
| ▲ | asdff 43 minutes ago | parent [-] | | US already has the technology to target a single seat in a car with a missile that has no explosives, solely kinetics (swords really). |
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| ▲ | RobotToaster 6 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | That doesn't seem like the most trustworthy source. >Established in May 2017 and funded by Saudi Arabia,[1][2][3][4][5][6] it actively promotes former Crown Prince Reza Pahlavi as the next ruler of Iran. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iran_International | | |
| ▲ | asdff 42 minutes ago | parent [-] | | If anything that seems like it would lean American in its bias. Saudi are our allies as is the family of the former Shah. |
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| ▲ | computerex 4 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| America helped Israel kill THOUSANDS of children, and America just killed 150 school girls in Iran. America is a war criminal, plain and simple. |
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| ▲ | Tomis02 8 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| > Not sure if it’s possible to treat enemies better than that. If you can't imagine how, that says a lot about you. |
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| ▲ | srean 8 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| Can you cite something to support this. Quite keen to read. |
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| ▲ | pphysch 4 hours ago | parent | prev [-] |
| Not sure how anyone can believe this while, as another commenter points out, the US is proudly and unilaterally murdering speedboat users in the Caribbean without any due process. |