| ▲ | asdff 7 hours ago |
| If the source below is correct, the commander of the Dena ordered his troops to stay on the ship despite the warnings, there was a bit of a mutiny and the survivors are those who rejected those orders and jumped off. https://www.iranintl.com/en/202603071125 |
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| ▲ | ok_dad 6 hours ago | parent | next [-] |
| OK if I come to your car, declare you’re my enemy, and tell you to get out before I toss a Molotov at you, does that mean I can’t be tried for murder later if you refuse? This was a sneak attack outside of an established war zone, for an illegal war, so don’t try to conflate this as an attack on America’s enemies. The USA made them their enemies themselves. |
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| ▲ | AnimalMuppet 4 hours ago | parent [-] | | A sneak attack where they warned them twice first? Come on. | | |
| ▲ | computerex 3 hours ago | parent [-] | | They were in international waters. This was literally a war crime according to international law. Even the killing of the Supreme leader was against international law. | | |
| ▲ | osiris970 3 hours ago | parent [-] | | Not that I am supporting the war, against what statue is killing khamenei? You are targeting a military leader in an arm conflict. Seems clear cut | | |
| ▲ | computerex 2 hours ago | parent [-] | | The entire attack was illegal under international law:
https://law.stanford.edu/2026/03/03/stanfords-allen-weiner-o... https://www.newser.com/story/384710/legality-of-khameneis-ki... His daughter, son-in-law, and grandchildren were civilians.
Intentionally targeting civilians is a war crime.
Even if they were not targeted directly, an attack is illegal if:
it fails to minimize civilian harm, or
the civilian casualties are disproportionate to the military advantage International law is very clear on this point. | | |
| ▲ | dudul 2 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | A law only has value if it can be enforced. Who's going to enforce this international law exactly? | |
| ▲ | osiris970 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | I don't believe you can minimize civilian damage more than that, if a target is always among civilians.
You can only push so much, like the pager attack was probably the most minimizing one, but obviously and unfortunately civilians still got caught. For the international law part, interesting debate i think, where the state acts in self-defense if it has sustained an “armed attack” by its adversary;. Obviously this is very broad, but i think you can easily argue the last 40 year of fire exchanges as a continued armed attack. | | |
| ▲ | asdff 41 minutes ago | parent [-] | | US already has the technology to target a single seat in a car with a missile that has no explosives, solely kinetics (swords really). |
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| ▲ | RobotToaster 6 hours ago | parent | prev [-] |
| That doesn't seem like the most trustworthy source. >Established in May 2017 and funded by Saudi Arabia,[1][2][3][4][5][6] it actively promotes former Crown Prince Reza Pahlavi as the next ruler of Iran. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iran_International |
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| ▲ | asdff 39 minutes ago | parent [-] | | If anything that seems like it would lean American in its bias. Saudi are our allies as is the family of the former Shah. |
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