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wesselbindt 10 hours ago

The article says this is the first jet that was shot down by enemy fire this war, but this confuses me. Was the F35 that was downed a while back friendly fire or something? Are F35s not fighter jets?

MarkMarine 10 hours ago | parent | next [-]

The F35 was able to make an emergency landing in a gulf country. This one actually went down in Iran.

ok_dad 6 hours ago | parent | next [-]

I’m not sure a plane can be landed when the crew ejected.

azernik 4 hours ago | parent [-]

Assuming you're both referring to the events of 19 March, they did not eject from the F-35. I know of no event during this war where an F-35 crew ejected.

aucisson_masque 3 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

> emergency landing

https://preview.redd.it/f35-i-shot-down-in-iran-v0-0gdyroc4o....

I think it's ok to say that it crashed into the ground but the pilot survived.

With 'emergency landing' people assume it was just a rough landing whereas the plane here is completely and utterly broken.

MarkMarine 2 hours ago | parent | next [-]

As an aviator, that right there counts as an emergency landing. A hard one.

They limped it back home, they didn’t ditch a very sensitive airframe over enemy territory, I’d call that a win and the pilot deserves a medal for that.

olejorgenb 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Source of that image though.. ?

malfist 10 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

We have always been at war with Eastasia

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hypeatei 10 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

That one was damaged and managed to land safely, iirc. Depends on your definition of "shot down" I guess, but the pilot didn't eject, so...

ge96 10 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

I thought the IR video of that showed it made the missile detonate before the missile hit, maybe shrapnel hit the jet

Then again idk the jet exhaust becomes more significant not sure if afterburner or damage

https://www.reddit.com/r/CombatFootage/comments/1ry6ma2/f35_...

jeffbee 10 hours ago | parent [-]

That's how anti-aircraft missiles always work.

ge96 10 hours ago | parent | next [-]

In that video it seems like something shoots at the missile is what I'm saying from the F35

Someone said maybe a form of DIRCM

ok_dad 5 hours ago | parent | next [-]

The missiles have what’s effectively a flak shotgun shell at the tip, when they’re pointed at an object and close by it shoots flak in a tight cone towards the front.

Flak spreads the damage better and does more kinetic damage than trying to ram a plane with a missile and hoping the concussion from a the resulting explosion damages something.

eqvinox 10 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

You're talking about a single "dash" on the frame before it goes all white. First question, if it were a laser, would be what exactly are you seeing there? A laser from the side is invisible, there'd need to be dust there, or the air would need to have turned into plasma. I don't think either makes that much sense. Second question/problem would be… it would have failed/be malfunctioning because —

— pretty much all AA munition works by exploding in close proximity to the target and showering it in shrapnel. So this might even have "helped" the missle/shell against malfunction in its fuse. And considering that this is designed to work like that, and it's likely not the greatest quality work on the Iranian side, it's also possible that the thing is already exploding and just ejected some piece of intentional shrapnel (or unintentionally itself) early, ahead of the actual detonation.

Or the Iranians edited that "dash" into that one frame, it's not exactly like it's a reputable source and it's in their interest to confuse things. Maybe they want the US to believe that the countermeasures are malfunctioning and helping their attacks, so they turn it off…

ge96 10 hours ago | parent [-]

Yeah I was also thinking the the dash might be the missile itself

The single exhaust plume does become multiple on the F35 suggesting damage

xeromal 8 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Almost like a seeking flak shell. I had no idea.