"So basically", what a weird conclusion to take out of it, just don't pay with your credit card for services you can pay cash or crypto.

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streetfighter64 2 hours ago | parent [-]

Sorry, perhaps the takeaway is clearer when you see the full quote [0]. I omitted it for space, here's the relevant part

> Third, let's talk about what was actually disclosed. No emails were handed over. No message content. No metadata about who the user communicated with. The only information Proton could provide [...]

Yes, paying by crypto prevents Proton from disclosing your identity that way. Is there anything preventing Proton from disclosing the email content or metadata? Do they claim they won't disclose that? Clearly they do allow themselves to disclose metadata [1]

> For example, in ransomware cases, we can preserve information about which victims contacted the suspect, so that victims can be notified.

So, "just don't pay with a credit card" comes with the additional caveat of "don't email somebody you don't want the FBI to know you emailed". Whether you also need to "don't write anything you don't want the FBI to know", I haven't investigated further, but you could perhaps look that up yourself. I will just assume that to be the case based on what I've seen.

[0] https://www.reddit.com/r/privacy/comments/1rltej7/comment/o8... [1] https://proton.me/legal/law-enforcement

	▲	Yiin 2 hours ago \| parent [-]
		There are limits of what you can encrypt, in all of the cases of proton being critiqued for its compliance with law I haven't seen any instance of them being able to disclose email content, where metadata is "who we're sending email to", which is, I assume, not encryptable if you want an usable service. That being said, the quote does make your pov clearer, thank you for that.