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| ▲ | avaer 2 days ago | parent | next [-] | | I wouldn't would shelve it under "politics", it's not what politics meant just a few years ago. And I don't think the people you're talking about would have been political before politics became a bag of memes. | |
| ▲ | reedf1 2 days ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | Believe it or not; it is an enormous luxury to be able to ignore politics. | | |
| ▲ | mrits 21 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | You can be obsessed with a diet and never lose weight. We are talking about two different things. Being productive and making change has very little to do with making something your entire personality. | |
| ▲ | irishcoffee 2 days ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | How do you figure? Ignoring it or obsessing over it, the outcomes don't change. Just emotional energy expended. | | |
| ▲ | alsetmusic 2 days ago | parent | next [-] | | Try being in a relationship with someone who may become a target of the administration due to their status as a resident (but not citizen) of the USA and tell me the outcomes don't change. You're right. I need to calm down. It's all theater that doesn't impact real people. We can just go about our merry way because no one has been kidnapped by federal agents in defiance of judicial orders. | | |
| ▲ | irishcoffee 2 days ago | parent | next [-] | | I wasn't trying to be a jerk. There was a massive protest in the US this past weekend. Millions of people standing in solidarity. This was the 3rd such protest, each larger than the last. What has changed? One of these days the US will realize that emoting together with costumes and posterboards, bitching online, and loudly talking about how "my team is right!" is not effective. So, in what ways is it effective to give a fuck about national politics? I haven't found any, and I'm emotionally tapped out. The government gets none of my attention. Local government participation might yield small results, maybe. Not enough for me to give a shit. Seems like twice a week a state-or-lower politician gets rung up for bribes, corruption, etc. I have no desire to play that game, personally. | | |
| ▲ | johnnyanmac a day ago | parent | next [-] | | >What has changed? The people of Montgomery in the 60's boycotted a bus for a few weeks. What changed? They just got hosed down in the end. If you're hoping for instantaneous change over a single event, you're not going to see that over a mass protest. The point of protests is to bring awareness and change sentiment. >So, in what ways is it effective to give a fuck about national politics? Kristi Noem didn't get fired because people "didn't give a flying fuck about politics". We aren't seeing dozens of republican representatives retire or not run for reelection because "people didn't give a shit about politics". The Epstien files, the push back against ICE, the pressure against the SAVE Act. I can go on all day. If you feel powerless then feel free to stand by. But let's not pretend that absolutely nothing has changed just because you don't bother to read up on the news you admitted you "don't give a shit about" Looking over the course of these past 15 months, it's clearly having some effect. I'm sorry if it's not fast enough for you, but not all problems are solved by bullets. Feel free to prove me wrong if you want. | | |
| ▲ | irishcoffee 11 hours ago | parent [-] | | Witch hunts happen despite protests, not because of them. I don’t have anything to prove you wrong about, that onus is on you. :) | | |
| ▲ | johnnyanmac 10 hours ago | parent [-] | | Nothing I said has to do with witch hunts, so I hbe nothing to prove. I don't even understand what you're saying. Are you implying that criticizing your government is a "witch hunt"? |
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| ▲ | RealityVoid 2 days ago | parent | prev [-] | | If you do this, you are in effect ceding the stage to assholes. They will go and spew the post-truth hate soup to your aquantances and friends and family and come election day, they win. I think protests are just a tool with varying success depending on context but political action is necessary if you don't want t o lose your country. |
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| ▲ | mrits 2 days ago | parent | prev [-] | | [flagged] | | |
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| ▲ | hackable_sand 2 days ago | parent | prev [-] | | If you interact with other humans then you are participating in politics. |
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| ▲ | SilasX 2 days ago | parent | prev [-] | | It's fair to expect people to pay attention to political issues that can affect them. It's not fair to expect everyone to be intimately aware of every political gaffe, and instantly make the connection when you repeat it so they know not to reply to the comment seriously -- as the original comment was doing. FFS, just put it in quotes so people know you're quoting someone. (Or if it's not a direct quote, mention that it's from the mentality of the person you're mocking.) Is that so hard? Is it so important that you feel special as someone who knows about that incident that you just have to provoke a confused flamewar? | | |
| ▲ | Tadpole9181 2 days ago | parent [-] | | The head of the DoJ, being questioned about the president of the United States' involvement in (one of) the highest profile child sex trafficking ring in US history and it's subsequent cover up using the FBI itself, yelling about the economy and that nobody cares about child sex trafficking... Is not exactly a normal "political gaffe". I would, in fact, say it's a huge deal that anyone remotely aware of what's happening in politics should know about. It was headlined and broadcast on most major networks. Nor do I see anybody upset that it was misinterpreted or that someone didn't know. Just people who didn't know about it name-calling anyone who did. So not sure how their little joke "provoked" a flamewar, vs people being sensitive and lashing out that they aren't in on the joke immediately. | | |
| ▲ | SilasX 2 days ago | parent [-] | | People don't have encyclopedic knowledge of the same things you care about. Putting quotes around a quote isn't hard. | | |
| ▲ | johnnyanmac a day ago | parent | next [-] | | I'd bet this is something the next Gen will be taught in high school history. I guess it's easy to pretend Watergate is just another Tuesday in midst the scandal. | |
| ▲ | Tadpole9181 2 days ago | parent | prev [-] | | It wasn't a direct quote, to be clear. If anything, it would be "/s" at the end for sarcasm. |
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| ▲ | cosmicgadget 2 days ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | Child sex trafficking isn't "politics" for most people. | |
| ▲ | schmidtleonard 2 days ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | As opposed to posting on HN complaining about reddit, which is where the real money's at? Nah, this shit was dank enough to make it into popular culture. We have: 1. The shamelessness absurdity of using "market is up" to deflect from a pedo scandal 2. The fact that the market said "nope" and tanked immediately after Bondi tried to lean on it | |
| ▲ | johnnyanmac a day ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | Given how concerned politics is with certain Americans as of late, I can't blame them. | |
| ▲ | SilasX 2 days ago | parent | prev [-] | | ... and comments requiring the reader to be that way too should be downvoted/flagged. Look at the replies it produced: troll mission accomplished, "productive conversation" not so much. At the very least, they could have put the comment in quotes to indicate they're quoting someone and it shouldn't be read at the object level. Edit: Seriously? Am I wrong here? Are you all really okay with Poe's Law-ifying HN, where people post comments that are easy to read as serious when they were intended as ridicule of the person who said them, and the comments erupt in confusion and flames? That's not what we should be expecting out of HN. | | |
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