How do you figure? Ignoring it or obsessing over it, the outcomes don't change. Just emotional energy expended.

alsetmusic 2 days ago | parent | next [-]

Try being in a relationship with someone who may become a target of the administration due to their status as a resident (but not citizen) of the USA and tell me the outcomes don't change.

You're right. I need to calm down. It's all theater that doesn't impact real people. We can just go about our merry way because no one has been kidnapped by federal agents in defiance of judicial orders.

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irishcoffee 2 days ago | parent | next [-]

I wasn't trying to be a jerk.

There was a massive protest in the US this past weekend. Millions of people standing in solidarity. This was the 3rd such protest, each larger than the last.

What has changed?

One of these days the US will realize that emoting together with costumes and posterboards, bitching online, and loudly talking about how "my team is right!" is not effective.

So, in what ways is it effective to give a fuck about national politics? I haven't found any, and I'm emotionally tapped out. The government gets none of my attention.

Local government participation might yield small results, maybe. Not enough for me to give a shit. Seems like twice a week a state-or-lower politician gets rung up for bribes, corruption, etc. I have no desire to play that game, personally.

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johnnyanmac a day ago | parent | next [-]

>What has changed?

The people of Montgomery in the 60's boycotted a bus for a few weeks. What changed? They just got hosed down in the end.

If you're hoping for instantaneous change over a single event, you're not going to see that over a mass protest. The point of protests is to bring awareness and change sentiment.

>So, in what ways is it effective to give a fuck about national politics?

Kristi Noem didn't get fired because people "didn't give a flying fuck about politics". We aren't seeing dozens of republican representatives retire or not run for reelection because "people didn't give a shit about politics". The Epstien files, the push back against ICE, the pressure against the SAVE Act. I can go on all day.

If you feel powerless then feel free to stand by. But let's not pretend that absolutely nothing has changed just because you don't bother to read up on the news you admitted you "don't give a shit about"

Looking over the course of these past 15 months, it's clearly having some effect. I'm sorry if it's not fast enough for you, but not all problems are solved by bullets. Feel free to prove me wrong if you want.

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irishcoffee 10 hours ago | parent [-]

Witch hunts happen despite protests, not because of them.

I don’t have anything to prove you wrong about, that onus is on you. :)

	▲	johnnyanmac 10 hours ago \| parent [-]
		Nothing I said has to do with witch hunts, so I hbe nothing to prove. I don't even understand what you're saying. Are you implying that criticizing your government is a "witch hunt"?

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RealityVoid 2 days ago | parent | prev [-]

If you do this, you are in effect ceding the stage to assholes. They will go and spew the post-truth hate soup to your aquantances and friends and family and come election day, they win.

I think protests are just a tool with varying success depending on context but political action is necessary if you don't want t o lose your country.

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mrits 2 days ago | parent | prev [-]

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	▲	lcnPylGDnU4H9OF 2 days ago \| parent [-]
		But there are plenty which allow someone to stay legally.

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hackable_sand 2 days ago | parent | prev [-]

If you interact with other humans then you are participating in politics.