Ex-Colleagues are launching a startup right now: No US-Services from the beginning on, only OpenSource and this new EU-Office thingy.

I think more companies will join the train? Esp new & smaller ones, for sure there is no option for bigCorp like ASML to be free of US-cloud, but maybe its gaining traction.

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gip 2 days ago | parent | next [-]

Surprised by this take. Building a startup is already insanely hard. So I wouldn’t like to add more challenge by spending time integrating with non-US services if they are not top just because of my political views.

I feel a better answer is for Europe to build real, competitive alternatives to US services.

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shofmn 13 hours ago | parent | next [-]

This is just one example, but I think worth sharing:

I've been running a new solution in beta for a while and am about to go commercial (Germany). In my solution, it's essential to keep personal data safe and ensuring the customer it's not shared with anybody else.

I used Azure and AWS in the past, but stopped. Using only German data centers & services is a selling point for my customers and builds additional trust. Aside the initial effort, I don't see any big technological disadvantages for my use-case and actually pay less now for operating everything.

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cineticdaffodil 2 days ago | parent | prev | next [-]

The eu can not move and function in any capacity standalone. The moment the is dropped out the eu tried to fill that hole with the other allies atoll.

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tinodb 2 days ago | parent | prev | next [-]

So now you know how much it matter :)

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cbeach 2 days ago | parent | prev [-]

I love seeing companies set meritocracy aside for partisan political posturing.

All people who run companies should relish their competition behaving sub-optimally.

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Schmerika a day ago | parent [-]

> sub-optimally

Optimal for society? Optimal for the Epstein class? Or do you mean optimal for the owner, personally, in the very short term?

Because that's the choice people are making these days. It's not really "partisan political posturing" to divest from countries running pedo blackmail rings on the world, or arming genocide, or bombing hundreds of schools. Targeting journalists, then lying about them to try and justify it. Pulling the plug on incubators. Targeting entire families with shoddy AI. Bombing civilian power plants and ambulances and hospitals and so on and on.

There's nothing partisan or posturing about saying "fuck all that". That's just your duty as a human being, the basic bare minimum. That duty doesn't get discarded just because you run a company or have evil competitors trying to race you to the bottom.

When companies are complicit with committing heinous atrocities at scale, and screwing up the world economy for their own gain, I find very little 'merit' in that. Is 'meritocracy' a purely financial term in your view? Do 'respect for life' and 'trust' and other nebulous concepts (which don't immediately affect the balance sheet) have merit?

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cbeach a day ago | parent [-]

> Optimal for society? Optimal for the Epstein class? Or do you mean optimal for the owner

No. Optimal for employees and customers, which is, in turn, optimal for society.

Making technology choices based on political ideology rather than merit is bad for the interests of both employees and customers.

The hyperbolic statements in your comment suggest your worldview comes from an online echo chamber. With respect, I think you'd benefit from consuming news from a variety of different sources. Think critically about the biases and agendas of the media.

I suspect none of your favourite media sources mentioned the illegal cluster munitions that Iran used to destroy an Israeli kindergarten (among other civilian buildings) on Saturday: https://www.wsj.com/livecoverage/iran-us-israel-war-updates-...

War is an ugly business. Outcomes are rarely so pure that we can single out "good guys" and "bad guys". But hopefully once you've examined the facts objectively you'll see that the Israeli government is more ethical than Hamas, and you'll see that the American government (yes, even Orange Man Bad) is better than the Ayatollahs of Iran and their IRGC.

	▲	Schmerika 19 hours ago \| parent [-]
		> The hyperbolic statements in your comment suggest your worldview comes from an online echo chamber. No, nothing hyperbolic whatsoever. Everything I said is trivial to source. If you believe otherwise then you might follow your own advice - this is all well documented stuff. You can even see the video of those premature babies that were left to rot by Israel, if you don't believe me. No, I'm not saying that to shock you; it's an important documented fact. Like the prison rapists being celebrated on national Israeli TV, or the zip-tied teenagers run over by steamrollers, or the ambulances shot up and buried in a shallow grave, or Hind Rajab being used as bait for another ambulance, or any of the other thousands upon thousands of well documented atrocities which the US has helped to arm and enable. > I suspect none of your favourite media sources mentioned the illegal cluster munitions that Iran used to destroy an Israeli kindergarten (among other civilian buildings) on Saturday A kindergarten! Wow. That really is atrocious. Were there 100 schoolgirls in it, like the elementary school America blew up? Your source says no, but you seem really incensed by this property damage. Is that worse though, in your view, than the 498 Iranian schools [0] targeted in the last months? Is it worse than destroying just about every school and hospital in Gaza? > War is an ugly business Being at war doesn't excuse war crimes - especially when the war begins because you don't like how well negotiations are going so you bomb a school killing 100 little girls, while killing the leader of a country with his grandchildren and torpedoing an unarmed ship. > hopefully once you've examined the facts objectively you'll see that the Israeli government is more ethical than Hamas To say this after the last three years requires something fundamental to be missing within you. I can not help you find it again. I wish I could; I truly do. > you'll see that the American government (yes, even Orange Man Bad) is better than the Ayatollahs of Iran and their IRGC Even if that were true, by whatever undefined metric you're defining as 'better', how does that give you the right to commit hundreds of war crimes and atrocities to change their government? You might want to read up on recent US history btw - and how we're perceived right now [1]. There are many very good reasons why the world considers the US to be the greatest threat to global peace, stability and democracy [2], [3]; not just since "orange man" but since 2003 [4]. Iran never even come close. 0 - https://truthout.org/articles/us-israeli-attacks-have-damage... 1 - https://www.politico.com/news/2026/03/14/america-allies-divi... 2 - https://truthout.org/articles/people-worldwide-name-us-as-a-... 3 - https://brilliantmaps.com/threat-to-peace/ 4 - https://www.democracynow.org/2003/10/31/headlines/poll_israe...

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polyamid23 2 days ago | parent | prev [-]

What new EU-Office thingy?

	▲	pimeys 2 days ago \| parent \| next [-]
		https://office.eu/
	▲	grsmvg 2 days ago \| parent \| prev [-]
		Reading this interview and the comments doesn't really spark a lot of confidence in the product (in Dutch): https://tweakers.net/reviews/14562/nextcloud-met-een-strik-e... I paints the picture of it being mostly a hyped marketing wrapper around Nextcloud that hasn't even launched yet.