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30 Years Ago, Robots Learned to Walk Without Falling(spectrum.ieee.org)
25 points by vinhnx 2 days ago | 9 comments
tomxor 2 hours ago | parent | next [-]

These robots weren't really "walking" in the sense that humans walk through continuous dynamic balancing, i.e falling forward.

These used quasi-static walking, where the zero moment point (like a moving centre of gravity) is kept within the support polygon of the footprint. This is what gives them their weird swaying gait and extremely conservative movement characteristics. You could never make a bipedal robot run, jump or respond to large and sudden external forces using this method. It's essentially a balance free movement hack.

sandworm101 an hour ago | parent | next [-]

Ya, they walk like old people. By keeping thier cog over thier feet they are able to stop at any moment without tipping over. That's how old people with diminished motor neuron function walk. Both play it safe because they know they lack the reaction time to prevent a fall once cog is outside their footprint. It is also how one walks when on very slippery surfaces.

ninju a minute ago | parent [-]

https://hennepinhealthcare.org/blog/walk-penguin

scoot 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

According to the article E0 was static, E3 was dynamic.

What none of them did, however, was “learn” (as the title suggests). They used hardcoded algorithms.

amelius 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

This is 12 years old now:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pgaEE27nsQw

kotaKat 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

The sad part though: What even has Honda done with their humanoid robotics research? I remember being starry-eyed, excited as a kid to see ASIMO and all the amazing things it was doing. Past a couple hardware revisions they basically just let the thing rot out to die and it hurts.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X23jNzL3wuE

This commercial still holds a lot of spirit and heart to it. I really wish we could tap progress on the shoulder and ask for more forwards again...

numpad0 16 minutes ago | parent | next [-]

All those car companies use A LOT of robotics, automation, and simulation to build cars. They just don't seek for an autonomous sentient humanoids as means to it.

They all have their own predecessors to things like NVIDIA Isaac used for things like worker toolpath planning or for absorbing worker height variances. They just don't use artificial robots with those systems, but use human laborers.

Anyone with even workshop level knowledge or experience in robotics knows we are minimum one whole decade away from humanoids building cars, let alone economically, and there's not going to be much first mover dominance advantages carrying over from doing pre-viability humanoids.

And so they just, keep raking in money from robotics assisted and hand built hybrid cars. Some more some less.

ACCount37 an hour ago | parent | prev [-]

They've done nothing. Because there was nothing to do, back then.

Humanoid robotics wasn't a hardware problem back then, and isn't a hardware problem today. It was, and is, an AI problem at its core. You can make a humanoid robot, but you can't make it do useful things.

This is what's changing today. AI tech is actually advancing enough that "useful humanoid robots" might be within reach.

noritaka88 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Doraemon is the one you befriend Gundam is the one you ride to lead the way The round thing that cleans the whole room is the Roomba Robots these days are there to help with the housework Next up, emotional comfort? We might not even need arms and legs