In Phoenix, Arizona, there are solar panels over the parking lots at since of the grocery stores. Makes a huge difference in survivability when you get back to the car.

(Without huge infrastructure dedicated to car welfare, Phoenix is uninhabitable.)

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fouc 8 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Phoenix is uninhabitable precisely because it's entirely optimized for car life from what I heard? (i.e. massively spread out, no walkability, etc)

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httpz 6 hours ago | parent | next [-]

It's car optimized because the 110F weather makes it un-walkable in the first place. When I lived in a walkable city, I would prefer to walk 30 minutes than drive. When I lived in Phoenix, I did not want to spend more than 30 seconds outside in the summer.

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fouc 5 hours ago | parent | next [-]

how's the tree situation though? 110F + lots of huge trees = a lot more tolerable. trees cool shit down big time.

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httpz 2 hours ago | parent [-]

It's a desert so trees can't survive without irrigation. Since water is scarce as well, there aren't enough trees to cover the vast low density area.

	▲	Y-bar an hour ago \| parent [-]
		You can always start small and over decades grow the area. After all that is how cities like Copenhagen and Amsterdam became bike friendly, not just a few years, but decades of work. What about https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dracaena_cinnabari or https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chilopsis?

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AshamedBadger56 7 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

I suspect they were mostly referring to it being uninhabitable due to the extreme heat and duration of 100ºF+ days.

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dyauspitr 4 hours ago | parent [-]

A dry 100F is fine weather. I’ll take that over a midwestern winter any day.

	▲	disillusioned 24 minutes ago \| parent [-]
		100F days are fine, cakewalks, even, especially with misters + shade. We had 70+ days of 110°F two years ago, and over 20 days 115°F+. They are not the same. Those days are unbearable nightmare fuel, and worse, they turn into insanely miserable nights where the low temperature rarely dips below 95°. It is absolutely awful, dry or not.

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sneak 8 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Phoenix as well as other similar places (such as Las Vegas where I live part of the year) have an outsized benefit from installing solar compared to normal places. We basically never have to deal with rain or clouds. Installing solar here is a total no-brainer.

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