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JumpCrisscross 13 hours ago

$147 in July 2008 had the purchasing power of ~$218 today [1].

[1] https://www.bls.gov/data/inflation_calculator.htm

selectodude 13 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Goldman Sachs has been sandbagging their crude forecasts so hilariously that I'm convinced they're frontrunning their customers.

JumpCrisscross 11 hours ago | parent [-]

Do they meaningfully deviate from their peers?

selectodude 11 hours ago | parent [-]

Not really. It's just that the divergence in price analysis coming out of banks vs the what people in the oil industry are saying is just so ridiculous that I refuse to believe that the hotshot analysts at GS/JPM are that ignorant.

JumpCrisscross 8 hours ago | parent [-]

> divergence in price analysis coming out of banks vs the what people in the oil industry are saying

Source for a consensus from oil? The crack spread shows refiners pricing in higher prices [1].

If the domestic refiners and producers can’t agree, why is the homogenous opinion of the banks a conspiracy?

[1] https://rbnenergy.com/market-data/3-2-1-crack-spread

jltsiren 12 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

$147 was ~€95 in July 2008, which corresponds to ~€140 today. Which would be ~$160. And if you choose a third currency, you will get a third price.

Long-term measurements of value are kind of weird, as your unit of measurement can gain and lose value relative to the units other people are using.

JumpCrisscross 11 hours ago | parent [-]

The currency is less fundamentally meaningful than the group of purchasers buying their basket of goods.

> Long-term measurements of value are kind of weird

They are worthless. Best case, you’re asking a traveler problem. Does an American tourist rejecting a local Thai delicacy render it worthless? Of course not. They’re different purchasers. Similarly, trying to compare pricing preferences across centuries is borderline voodoo—you’re doing spherical-cow math.

master_crab 12 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Also adding: the spike in 2008 was transient and partially juiced by a weak dollar. Unfortunately, we will probably get no respite this time around.

At the current geopolitical trajectory, I also doubt $147 is anywhere near the limit of where oil is going.

missedthecue 12 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

in retrospect, the american obsession and mental sensitivity to gas prices is very curious. The average national gas price in 2008 was about $3.50 which is almost what it is now in 2026. And being a commodity product sold per gallon, there's obviously no shrinkflation or enshittification going on. It's actually remarkably stable in the face of almost 20 years of steady broader inflation.

JumpCrisscross 12 hours ago | parent [-]

> the american obsession and mental sensitivity to gas prices is very curious

It strikes me as sensible. DRAM being cheaper over decades doesn’t negate the impact of recent price hikes.

missedthecue 12 hours ago | parent [-]

Well it's not just recent price increases. Any time gasoline goes above $4, congress is at risk of being flipped (completely independent of the current party in control).

JumpCrisscross 12 hours ago | parent [-]

> Any time gasoline goes above $4, congress is at risk of being flipped

Inflation is a bitch. It’s also been the ruin of republics since at least the Romans, possibly sooner.