Okay, it's been several weeks.

How much of what you did have you retained? Could you do all of, some of, a small fraction of, or none of the work again today if you had to?

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peteforde a day ago | parent [-]

My reaction to this question is that it might technically be in good faith, but you're pushing it.

Let's say that LLMs didn't exist, and I learned these same skills in an oddly specific hands-on workshop, or from an oddly specific textbook, or fuck it, let's say that I hired some greybeard pedal designer to just sit beside me and answer all of my stupid questions without judgement for a few weeks at their hourly rate.

Would you feel compelled to challenge whether I had retained what I learned or inexplicably woke up this morning, tabula rasa, and realized that I'd forgotten everything I spent a week teaching myself? I honestly don't think that you would.

For the record, I could reimplement any part of the circuit on demand if I needed to. I might be tempted to look at my notes for the JFET switching because it was genuinely hard to keep in my head, but that's more of a confidence thing than a "shit, I forgot how op-amps work" thing.

I've since implemented a variation into a matrix mixer concept that I'm working on, when it detects that a TS cable has been inserted into a TRS jack.

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bluefirebrand a day ago | parent [-]

> Would you feel compelled to challenge whether I had retained what I learned

Yes, the exact same way I would dubious when someone says they learned much from following a youtube tutorial or participating in a two week workshop or something

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peteforde a day ago | parent [-]

That's funny... I taught myself Fusion in about a week following this excellent tutorial:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mK60ROb2RKI

It's a 90 minute video that will take you a week to watch if you're doing it properly.

Seriously though... you don't learn from watching a video tutorial (which you can slow down and re-watch as many times as you need) and you apparently don't believe you can learn from an LLM which will patiently answer literally infinite questions, no matter how basic or repetitive... would you mind clarifying how you do learn?

Everyone has different learning styles so I tend to take a different strokes for different folks attitude. For example, I don't absorb highly technical stuff from books and the idea of [paying to be in a] classroom where you're forced to endure 95% what you're not interested in to get the 5% you care about (at the speed of the dumbest student in the room) gives me hives.

Yet, it kind of sounds like you might just be arguing for argument's sake. Also, you can learn A LOT in two weeks if you're motivated.

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bluefirebrand a day ago | parent [-]

> would you mind clarifying how you do learn?

Practice

> Everyone has different learning styles so I tend to take a different strokes for different folks attitude

Okay but at the end of the day the only way to actually learn (and demonstrate that you've learned anything) is by actually doing it

And I don't really consider "I got the AI to do it" as actually doing it, which is why I'm questioning what you've actually retained.

To be clear if you feel like you've actually learned this stuff then good for you. I'm genuinely happy if that's the outcome you feel you have obtained

I'm just personally very skeptical of anyone learning fuck all from using AI to build stuff because like I said... I learn from practice. Using AI is not practice any more than copying from open source repos is.

And frankly I'm bitter because I absolutely cannot learn fuck all from using AI. It is the sort of shortcut that prevents my brain from committing anything to memory.

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peteforde a day ago | parent [-]

I guess I don't understand what about any aspect of what I explained gave you the impression that I might not have put what I learned into practice.

This is going to sound like I'm fucking with you, but I'm deadly serious: if someone taught you how to do something and you later learned that that person was actually an LLM masquerading as a human, would you forget what you had learned?

It's actually not impossible that you've hypnotized yourself, or could be experiencing a trauma response.

	▲	bluefirebrand 7 hours ago \| parent [-]
		Of course it's traumatic. It is undermining the value of my knowledge and skills in a time when the economy is extremely rocky and I'm afraid for my future