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albatross79 3 hours ago

Had Iran done anything to the US as heinous as this one "mistake" in the last 50 years that compares? Imagine if some country did this to us and just brushed it off as a mistake.

csmpltn an hour ago | parent | next [-]

Google it. Iran has waged a war on the US for 50 years. On many occasions through state-sponsored proxies.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Venezuela%E2%80%93Iran_ghost_f...

albatross79 an hour ago | parent [-]

Unsanctioned flights between Iran and a third country is tantamount to waging a war on the US in your view?

csmpltn an hour ago | parent [-]

Do you want me to sit here and summarize 50 years of conflict for you?

https://www.whitehouse.gov/releases/2026/03/the-iranian-regi...

lejalv 22 minutes ago | parent | next [-]

Yes please, but start a bit earlier and tell me the white house version of how the US staged a coup against Mossadegh in 1953 to install the Shah regime and control oil (ring a bell?)

csmpltn 17 minutes ago | parent | next [-]

Are you saying that none of the events listed, actually took place? Or that they somehow don't constitute a war? If you want a war, you get a war. This war could've been avoided, we've used up 50 years of failed diplomacy on that. But you chose war. So what's the problem now?

The US did not threaten Iran with a nuclear holocaust. The US did not murder tens of thousands of innocent Iranian civilians around the world. Iran itself on the other hand...

But look, we get it. White people are to blame for everything. Muslims are never accountable for anything. Muslims are just eternal victims, always oppressed, colonized, etc. "Please remember to go back to 1643 when {insert some bullshit argument here}". 50 years of diplomacy are too short, need to spend 50 more. We all need to sit and wait until after Iran has hundreds of nuclear warheads. Did I miss anything?

lejalv 3 minutes ago | parent [-]

I am white and non religious, but you write like a racist.

> The US did not murder tens of thousands of innocent Iranian civilians around the world

No, not just Iranians. You gotta learn the history of your country and spend less time singing anthems

stale2002 8 minutes ago | parent | prev [-]

That just means that you agree that there has been a war going on for 50 years which was the OPs point. You are agreeing with the person you responded to.

lejalv 5 minutes ago | parent [-]

No, an unilateral aggression is not a war.

albatross79 14 minutes ago | parent | prev [-]

Your strongest example should be good enough. So far you've got 1) flights between Venezuela and Iran 2) whitehouse.gov.

Even if Trump's Whitehouse was a good source and you took it at face value, most of the items in that list are by Iranian proxy, i.e. Iranian intelligence involvement. So by comparison you'd have to include Israel and CIA actions and then it's just a mess to figure out who's worse.

But even then, I don't see anything in there that's as evil as blowing apart dozens of school children in one blow, mistake or not.

csmpltn 7 minutes ago | parent [-]

You're deliberately pretending like there's no 50 years of documented warfare, terrorism, etc - readily available everywhere on the internet. No point in talking to you.

buttersicle 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Yes. They funded Hamas' invasion of Israel, a close ally of the US, which intentionally killed over 1000 civilians.

They have also repeatedly threatened to use nuclear weapons on Israel and were in the process of developing such weapons.

albatross79 2 hours ago | parent | next [-]

>> has A attacked B?

> Yes, C attacked D

platevoltage an hour ago | parent | prev [-]

I've never seen anyone with negative karma on HN. Who decides who gets to have nukes? Why doesn't Israel lead by example?