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Yes please, but start a bit earlier and tell me the white house version of how the US staged a coup against Mossadegh in 1953 to install the Shah regime and control oil (ring a bell?)

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stale2002 2 hours ago | parent | next [-]

That just means that you agree that there has been a war going on for 50 years which was the OPs point. You are agreeing with the person you responded to.

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lejalv 2 hours ago | parent [-]

No, an unilateral aggression is not a war.

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stale2002 2 hours ago | parent [-]

I am not sure why you are operating on such a weird definition of "war" that because 1 thing happened 50+ years ago that changes whats happening now.

Just look at whats happening now. Iran is shooting missiles at all sorts of countries all over the place. (not just the US or israel). Its clearly in a war with a lot of groups right now. It is a silly handwave to pretend like a war isn't going on now, because of something that happened 50 years ago.

Its clearly not unilateral, given how many other countries, that are not the US, have had missiles shot at them by Iran.

As a similar example Russia invaded Ukraine. There is a war going on between them and Ukraine. And when there is a war, countries attack each other. "Who started it" doesn't change the fact that a war is happening.

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lejalv 2 hours ago | parent [-]

I am white and non religious, but you write like a racist.

> The US did not murder tens of thousands of innocent Iranian civilians around the world

No, not just Iranians. You gotta learn the history of your country and spend less time singing anthems

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albatross79 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Your strongest example should be good enough. So far you've got 1) flights between Venezuela and Iran 2) whitehouse.gov.

Even if Trump's Whitehouse was a good source and you took it at face value, most of the items in that list are by Iranian proxy, i.e. Iranian intelligence involvement. So by comparison you'd have to include Israel and CIA actions and then it's just a mess to figure out who's worse.

But even then, I don't see anything in there that's as evil as blowing apart dozens of school children in one blow, mistake or not.

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		Not true, but I am skeptical that a one sided account would be adequate. Take care.