| ▲ | pfannkuchen 3 days ago | |
Hmm. In the abstract, it could be argued that corporates influencing or attempting to influence the policy defined by the citizenry’s democratically elected representatives subverts the will of the people. Where the alternative isn’t that the company has to be ra ra America let’s help the government, they just have to treat the government like any other customer when it comes to doing or not doing business based on ideological differences. It’s like citizens get one vote, and then the shareholders of that company get a much bigger vote on a per person basis. (Please withhold boring responses about how there are lots of problems with corporations, or this current government is bad, etc etc. I know all that, I’m just playing devil’s advocate because it seems like there is a reasonable case on that side, again, in the abstract.) | ||
| ▲ | throw0101c 2 days ago | parent | next [-] | |
> In the abstract, it could be argued that corporates influencing or attempting to influence the policy defined by the citizenry’s democratically elected representatives subverts the will of the people. So we should make lobbying by corporations illegal? Because is not lobbying "influencing or attempting to influence" policy? * https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lobbying Further Anthropic was not trying to 'influence or attempt to influence policy': they simply had restrictions on what their service(s) could be used for, which was written into a contract that the (current) administration agreed to. The government was free to have whatever policy it wanted. If the government didn't like the conditions of the contract then the government could try to get Anthropic to agree to change the terms, or cancel the contract all together. As one comment put it: Can the government force a company that runs a nuclear power plant force that company to make a nuclear weapon? If Anthropic wants non-weapon/military use of their service, and publicly states that and puts that into the terms of service, can they be forced to? Can the government force a Quaker to pick up a gun? * https://www.renofriends.org/the-peace-testimony-and-military... * https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quakers Or can the government force a Quaker to manufacture a gun? Force a sale of steel that the Quaker manufactures to a weapons maker? (There's a whole spectrum of 'complicity' here.) | ||
| ▲ | throwawayqqq11 2 days ago | parent | prev | next [-] | |
> they just have to treat the government like any other customer when it comes to doing or not doing business based on ideological differences. Which is what anthropic did? Nation states aswell as companies want to control their business involvements. The difference is, companies manipulating representatives will never be as fundamental (hopefully) as an arbitrary legal basis for governments to force companies. The orwellian angle comes from the total authoritarian one. | ||
| ▲ | UltraSane 2 days ago | parent | prev [-] | |
Anthopric is a private company that can absolutely set rules and limits on how its product is used. | ||