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appreciatorBus 4 hours ago

Yup. Absolutely insane that university "educated" people have been telling us that kids who believe in Santa Claus are capable of making decisions like this.

Ralfp 4 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Have you considered that due to their education and research those people may know more on the subject than you do?

Regret rates for transition remain notoriously low (within 2%) with main reasons for regret stated to be transitioning too late or environmental lack of acceptance or support.

Besides, despite some orgs claiming there is a "transgender trend", we are just not seeing this in the data.

appreciatorBus an hour ago | parent | next [-]

> despite some orgs claiming there is a "transgender trend", we are just not seeing this in the data.'

Rapid-onset gender dysphoria is a well documented phenomenon.

https://www.jahonline.org/article/S1054-139X(16)30765-0/abst...

https://statsforgender.org/since-the-turn-of-the-millennium-...

Ralfp 14 minutes ago | parent [-]

It is not.

Lisa Littmans research behind „rapid onset gender dysphoria” is a survey amongst parents recruited on anti-trans internet sites and communities:

https://psychcentral.com/lib/there-is-no-evidence-that-rapid...

    The study was based on 256 responses to an online survey of parents recruited from these three websites
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rapid-onset_gender_dysphoria_c...

That by itself means its heavily biased research on a weak sample.

„Stats for Gender” site is ran by Genspect, which is also a biased source on the subject:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genspect

ipaddr 4 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

It's hard to impossible to go back. But the suicide rate is high.

Ralfp 4 hours ago | parent [-]

It is high because primarily a minority stress of being a transgender person in unaccepting environment:

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S266656032...

ipaddr 3 hours ago | parent [-]

After reading the above I don't believe they concluded stress of living in a non-accepting world is the primary reason.

30% think about killing themselves and 4%+ try each year is shocking. I think whatever side of the debate you are on we can agree things aren't working out for too many people who go through this process. If this was a drug or vaccine or hair shampoo it would have been pulled off the market.

dpark 3 hours ago | parent [-]

> people who go through this process

Through what process? This was a study about trans and nonbinary people, not specifically about people who have “transitioned”

I would imagine the rate of depression and similar disorders in trans people is extremely high. To be so unsatisfied with one’s own body that you consider (or go through) major treatment and surgery to change something so fundamental.

salemh 4 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Demonstrably false. Transgenderism is a cult ideology intentionally inducing trauma to recreate multiple personality disorder in children. They are easier to abuse, and commit suicide.

https://web.archive.org/web/20200523211027/https://www.acped...

In 1979 Johns Hopkins Hospital had banned all sex-change operations permanently at their facilities due to rates of suicide having skyrocketed amongst transgender post reassignment surgery. Suicide is twenty times greater among adults who used cross-sex hormones and underwent gender reassignment surgery.

According to Johns Hopkins Distinguished Service Professor of Psychiatry Dr. Paul R. McHugh, “Hopkins stopped doing sex-reassignment surgery, producing a ‘satisfied’ but still troubled patient seemed an inadequate reason for amputating normal organs.”

John Hopkins concluded...

Transgenderism is a mental disorder

Sex change is biologically impossible

People who promote sexual reassignment surgery are collaborating with and promoting a mental disorder

The suicide rate among transgendered people who had the surgery is 20 times higher

*70%-80% of children who expressed transgender feelings, overtime, lost those feelings.

Ralfp 3 hours ago | parent | next [-]

In 2017 Johns Hopkins Hospital has reopened its transgender care clinic as the Johns Hopkins Center for Transgender and Gender Expansive Health.

2022 research into Hospital's archives found the decision to cease operation in 1979 was political, not evidence based:

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/36191317/

> *70%-80% of children who expressed transgender feelings, overtime, lost those feelings.

This number most likely comes from a study that classified girls as transgender based on behaviors like preference to wear their hair short of wear pants instead of dresses or skirt:

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/21216800/

Those children did not self-identify as transgender and further more, research could not contact 41% of them for the follow up:

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/the-end-of-the-desistance_b_8...

dpd_dpd 3 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

I doubt that is the main reason why transgenderism has been promoted so much in recent years. Most of the ones pushing this ideology appear to fit the profile of autogynephilic males who wish to flaunt their paraphilia in public and gain access to the spaces of unconsenting women while doing so.

AdrianB1 4 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

That sounds like appeal to authority, it is classified as a fallacy.

dekhn an hour ago | parent | next [-]

it's only a fallacy in purely logical arguments. Appeal to authority makes sense in medical, scientific, engineering, and other contexts when the arguments necessarily depend on ambiguous data and subjective conclusions.

Ralfp 4 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Why is it okay for OP to question authority in the subject matter while me pointing out they research it more isn't?

I have also pointed out that regret rates for transition are within 2%.

mvc 4 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

How old are kids when they get their foreskin lopped off?

nomdep 4 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Indeed, that’s a barbaric custom, akin to genital mutilation, that should be reserved for a real medical necessity, never for religious reasons

TimorousBestie 3 hours ago | parent [-]

It is literally a form of genital mutilation. The foreskin is homologous to the hood of the clitoris.

erxam 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Hey, you aren't supposed to question our glorious metzitzah b'peh!

nslsm 4 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

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zahlman 4 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

They do not make that decision, and it is entirely irrelevant to the discussion.