| ▲ | siliconc0w 3 hours ago |
| Quitting your job is a good first step but ideally you're supposed to sink $200/mo into tokens to code your AI-generated startup idea instead of hiring app developers. |
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| ▲ | pigpop an hour ago | parent [-] |
| My thoughts exactly when I read "Instead of taking on IT jobs, Biesma hired two app developers, paying them each €120 an hour" like holy shit bro, you already have a subscription, you could have prototyped your idea for essentially zero additional cost and tested it for PMF. He wouldn't even have needed to turn down contracts since it doesn't take full-time effort to steer a coding model. Would have been much better off with a somewhat buggy AI prototype and spending extra on marketing to see if it got any traction. |
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| ▲ | joe_mamba 15 minutes ago | parent [-] | | > paying them each €120 an hour Those must be some of the best programmers in Europe at that rate. Anyone know how one can get one of those sweet €120 an hour gigs? Whenever I talked to recruiters they say their customers pay way below that, so there must be some scam I'm not in on. | | |
| ▲ | Ekaros 2 minutes ago | parent | next [-] | | I think billing rates for experienced seniors like architects are around there or higher. But this is basically before cut to company, taxes and any employment costs. What companies can pay to employees is always significantly lower. | |
| ▲ | alibarber 7 minutes ago | parent | prev [-] | | Probably includes circa 30% employer contributions to various taxes (employer side, the employee will be paying their own of course). And possibly VAT. | | |
| ▲ | joe_mamba 5 minutes ago | parent [-] | | Still an amazing deal compared to the rates I got quoted by recruiters. I'm guessing you must first live in Amsterdam for that. In Vienna you get laugh if you asked for 120, and there you pay even more in taxes than NL. |
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