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| ▲ | ChrisMarshallNY 44 minutes ago | parent | next [-] |
| My experience was that recruiters tried lowballing me, because they wanted to set up a system, where they ran the contract, and I subcontracted with them. They wanted to pay me $50/hr, but they would charge the customer $150/hr. It got quite insulting. They would dis my capabilities to me, but I’ll bet I walked on water, when they talked to the customer. |
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| ▲ | Bombthecat 10 minutes ago | parent [-] | | It's because companies reduced sourcing and supplier to two to four companies. You either get in with those companies or zero chance. They know that and abuse the shit out of the situation. Rumours has it, that companies are thinking about to end this setup and allow "anyone in" because recruiters ( Accenture, sthree and what not) are abusing this. With we get 150 we pay 60. What do you think what kind of developers you get? The bad and left over.. |
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| ▲ | 0x3f an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| Pretty normal senior contractor rate in London. |
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| ▲ | Ekaros an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| I think billing rates for experienced seniors like architects are around there or higher. But this is basically before cut to company, taxes and any employment costs. What companies can pay to employees is always significantly lower. |
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| ▲ | alibarber an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| Probably includes circa 30% employer contributions to various taxes (employer side, the employee will be paying their own of course). And possibly VAT. |
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| ▲ | joe_mamba an hour ago | parent [-] | | Still an amazing deal compared to the rates I got quoted by recruiters. I'm guessing you must first live in Amsterdam for that. In Vienna you get laugh if you asked for 120, and there you pay even more in taxes than NL. | | |
| ▲ | 0x3f 44 minutes ago | parent | next [-] | | Perhaps, but Vienna has better QoL so maybe it balances out at this level. If you want to just maximize income, there are better places for that than Amsterdam. | | |
| ▲ | joe_mamba 33 minutes ago | parent [-] | | >but Vienna has better QoL According to who? Visiting tourists rating amenities and people on welfare? NL infrastructure and tech jobs market is leagues beyond what Austria offers. >If you want to just maximize income, there are better places for that than Amsterdam. Like which? | | |
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| ▲ | alibarber an hour ago | parent | prev [-] | | It's high but I mean that the developer is asking for 90, and 120 is leaving the employers pocket. 60-70 is then making it to the developer's pocket. |
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| ▲ | bdangubic an hour ago | parent | prev [-] |
| > Whenever I talked to recruiters they say their customers pay way below that. Recruiters gotta eat too :) |
