| ▲ | btilly 3 hours ago | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Exactly. It is much easier to get people to agree to do questionable things, when there is pressure to "do something". A more limited bill takes off the pressure to "do something", and therefore makes the more extreme bill harder to pass later. In this case there is reason to suspect that the real goal of the bill is not catching pedophiles. Instead it is to give police broader powers of surveillance in the name of catching pedophiles, which they will then be able to use for other purposes. This is particularly problematic given the ways that it could be abused by some of the more authoritarian governments in the EU. Yes, I'm thinking of Viktor Orbán of Hungary. | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| ▲ | subscribed 36 minutes ago | parent | next [-] | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Its never about paedophiles. A huge ring has been uncovered in the us, with the broad international link, and none of these with mountains of evidence against them is harmed. Instead they serve in the prominent public positions sometimes silencing and killing their victims. If the reason in the arguments for the bill is about protecting the children, you can be sure as hell that's a strawman. | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| ▲ | torstenvl 3 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
> This is particularly problematic given the ways that it could be abused by some of the more authoritarian governments in the EU. > Yes, I'm thinking of Viktor Orbán of Hungary. Lol what? The UK leads [edit: in Europe overall, obviously not the EU] with approximately 18 per 100k prosecuted for online speech. Germany is at about 4 per 100k. Poland at about 0.8 per 100k. Hungary about 0.1 per 100K. For any definition of authoritarian that relates to chat control, the UK is two base-10 orders of magnitude more authoritarian than Hungary (7 base-2 orders of magnitude). | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
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