| ▲ | meken 8 hours ago |
| I had so much fun making videos with my mom when it came out. During the first two weeks, we made over 100 cameo videos together - we were constantly running up against the upload limit. It unleashed tons of genuine creativity, joy, and laughter from us. After those first two weeks though, we just… didn’t use it again. The novelty wore off and there wasn’t anything really to bring us back. That was the real downfall of Sora. |
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| ▲ | bit1993 a minute ago | parent | next [-] |
| I thinks its the same reason why chess tournaments, where two AIs play against each other are not as popular, compared to when two humans play each other. Maybe its because humans generally compare themselves to other humans and that's part of how they value. |
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| ▲ | yoz-y 31 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| The problem is that due to the ease these can be made there is also really no reason to make this social. “Why would I look at somebody else’s creations when I can do mine.” |
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| ▲ | muzani 9 minutes ago | parent [-] | | They're different impulses. Some want to consume. Others want to create. TikTok and social media is a strange mix of both, people posting response videos to everything. Personally, I've stopped subscribing to Spotify, YT music, etc because the slop from Suno is good enough to replace mainstream music or whatever lofi playlist. It's free, it's good enough, and it's not grating to hear after a few days of that favorite song. The video slop can well replace TikTok and Reels. Make educational content about your hometown. Explain how to throw an uppercut. But I guess the desire to create something that others would consume is also different from the desire to simply create. | | |
| ▲ | camillomiller 3 minutes ago | parent [-] | | Some want to consume... content that they don't think they could do in one minute themselves. They want to consume content made by other humans, even if it's still brain-eating algorithmic fodder, but still.
Sora proved it quite clearly. These clips had ZERO value. |
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| ▲ | teekert an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| Sounds like when we first had smartphones with orientation sensors and we could drink a beer from the phone, so cool... for 2 weeks. |
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| ▲ | mathattack 8 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| This is consistent with a lot of AI apps. I fell in love with Gamma and haven’t used it in forever. Same with NotebookLM. |
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| ▲ | wholinator2 8 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | I somewhat consistently use notebookLM for podcasts of academic papers I'm reading in my PhD. You have to go read it yourself afterwards but it makes better use of time in the gym or doing dishes/groceries. | | |
| ▲ | ludicrousdispla an hour ago | parent | next [-] | | I found notebookLM to consistently make up about 20% of it's summary. Entertaining but unreliable. | |
| ▲ | nytesky 6 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | The bantering of the podcast I found distracting and the breathless enthusiasm. I guess there was a way to make it more no nonsense? I found I lost content if tuned for brevity. | | |
| ▲ | djsavvy 6 hours ago | parent [-] | | I just use elevenreader for this. I copy in essays or whatever text I want to listen to and it works decently well. It's far from perfect, but certainly good enough. Sometimes I'll take deep research output and listen to it too that way. |
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| ▲ | qnleigh 7 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | I've found notebookLM summaries to be too high-level and oversimplified to be useful. Hopefully in a few years they can go deeper. | | |
| ▲ | SXX 2 hours ago | parent [-] | | You can alao use NotebookLM's as source for Gemini app and ask it to do more in-depth summaries with custom prompting. This somewhat makes whole NotrbookLM less useful, but still. |
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| ▲ | p4coder 7 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | I also like doing that for topics that I am tangentially interested in. One minor thing that I find annoying is that the narrators switch roles in the middle of conversation. They start with the female voice explaining a concept to the male voice and suddenly they switch. In the meantime I have identified myself with the voice being explained to. | |
| ▲ | shimman 8 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | Just listen to actual audio books... literally doing double the work for no benefit... why? | | |
| ▲ | blharr 7 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | There aren't a lot of highly technical audiobooks or ones that give the same specificity that would be the same as an academic paper | | |
| ▲ | wolvoleo 6 hours ago | parent [-] | | Not yet but it seems like they're getting to the point of AI narration finally being good enough to make any text an 'audiobook'. Having said that I absolutely hate the audio format, I only used it when I had to drive or when I swam lanes. But these days I do neither. | | |
| ▲ | coke12 3 hours ago | parent [-] | | No, reading verbatim from a technical paper is way too dense. You need a lot of filler words to slow it down and repetition to make it stick when read aloud. |
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| ▲ | arthurcolle 7 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | Writing a book takes like 2-3 years on average. Papers are published everyday. Having a cute two-person "conversational chat" w/ audio works for a lot of people vs. just reading a paper. "No benefit" to you perhaps. Don't generalize the lived experience. |
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| ▲ | SecretDreams 7 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | > You have to go read it yourself afterwards Or before! Either is mandatory to actually learn the content. | |
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| ▲ | anshumankmr 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | NotebookLM is great for learning I feel | |
| ▲ | conartist6 7 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | Yeah it's not just the hardware depreciating, it's the social impact of what the model can do |
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| ▲ | yabutlivnWoods 6 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hedonic_treadmill 24/7 titillation is boring |
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| ▲ | salt-thrower 2 hours ago | parent [-] | | The interesting difference here is that other hedonic activities do bring people back even after the first time they build up a tolerance and get bored. But many of these AI "creative" apps seem like a one-and-done thing. Once the novelty wears off there isn't anything more deeply rewarding to bring people back. |
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| ▲ | afro88 37 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| Sounds like me with listening to AI covers. After a couple of weeks I couldn't care less. But I was so stoked in it at the start |
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| ▲ | qingcharles 4 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| The Cameo feature is really excellent. The likeness of both the person and the voice is exceptional. I really enjoyed making some funny Cameo videos with my friends. I don't know of another simple way to insert your own avatar with your own voice into a video, and I'm pretty deep in this space. |
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| ▲ | urda 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| I honestly forgot about Sora until this post, and yeah same behavior played with it for a bit, then moved on with my life. |
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| ▲ | whateveracct 7 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| A lot of AI hype is parlor tricks |
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| ▲ | toraway 4 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | (FYI, this is an LLM bot, check their comment history and note the repetitive structure with every comment they've ever posted all within the last hour) > This is the right question but hard to answer in practice ...
> The brownfield vs greenfield split is the real answer to ...
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| ▲ | torginus 5 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | I dunno, it was the same for me and creative writing with AI. First it looked like it was crazy inventive, good at writing snappy dialouge, and in general a very good font of ideas. Then the same concepts, turns of phrase, story ideas kept reappearing, and I kinda soured on the concept. I haven't done it in a while, but that kind of usage really shows the weakness of LLMs - if you keep messing with its generations, editing what it made, and as the context length keeps increasing, its more end more likely it goes into dumb mode, where it feels like talking to GPT3, constantly getting confused, contradicting itself etc. |
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| ▲ | 1bpp 8 hours ago | parent | prev [-] |
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| ▲ | dang 7 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | Please don't cross into personal attack. Your comment would be fine without the swipe at the end. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html | |
| ▲ | Waterluvian 8 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | I think you’re fumbling on an important distinction. Sometimes people want to paint, sometimes people want a painting. To have wonderful time with their mom… I bet they had absolutely zero interest in the act and process of making silly videos. | | |
| ▲ | dqv 8 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | Totally. This wasn't a situation where a stranger was slopping another stranger, it was a mother and son doing something fun together. | |
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| ▲ | apsurd 8 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | I get your point but it goes too far in the opposite direction. We should now discuss absolutely nothing in relation to Sora and genAI videos? That seems overly charitable to the platform. | | |
| ▲ | Waterluvian 8 hours ago | parent [-] | | Here, let me try this approach: Read the main comment out loud to yourself while imagining it’s someone sitting at a table at a pub. Now imagine someone turning to this person in the pub, and speaking the subsequent comment, word for word. No seriously, try it out. | | |
| ▲ | apsurd 8 hours ago | parent [-] | | Agreed. I did try this out! So the reply to the original comment is dumb. I actually dismissed it for being flippant. Your reply is more interesting. Hence my (albeit maybe snarky) chiming in. So the original comment does end at a very specific app/sora related conclusion. "Sora didn't keep us coming back." If I may amend your scenario: imagine this bar is actually in the center of SF or across the street from Open-AI or whatever. We're on HN discussing a post on X about Sora. The appeal to humanity is not wrong. My point is more let's keep the connection with that humanity in relation to AI, to Sora, to what's going on in this forum. |
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| ▲ | jcims 8 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | Come on now...'We're curing cancer, right?!' You didn't at least puff a little ack through your nostrils for that one? | |
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