better educated I get, but more intelligent? That doesn't track.

groundzeros2015 a day ago | parent | next [-]

Yes, very unintelligent people tend to not do well financially.

The problem seems to be that intelligence is not entirely heritable; that just because unintelligent people fail to do well financially doesn't mean that their children are doomed to the same fate.

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groundzeros2015 a day ago | parent [-]

Not entirely heritable? Or has no genetic correlation?

> just because unintelligent people fail to do well financially doesn't mean that their children are doomed to the same fate.

Correct, my statement is about expectation of averages. Not a claim that we should exclude an individual because of who their parents are.

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bombcar a day ago | parent [-]

> Not entirely heritable? Or has no genetic correlation?

My understanding is that there is some genetic correlation but it's not a certainty; smart/rich parents can have dumbass kids and vice versa.

It's hard to quantify because a direct "IQ" measurement is fraught with issues and trying to measure by "success" has its own issues. If you've not met a lawyer/doctor/PhD that you'd put in the "dumbass" category, you probably haven't met many.

	▲	groundzeros2015 a day ago \| parent [-]
		Agreed. All children of smart people are not smart. All financially successful people are not smart.

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samultio a day ago | parent | prev [-]

Yeah it'd be very slight, but things like stress and nutrition can affect your memory in the long term which is a part of intelligence.

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groundzeros2015 a day ago | parent [-]

Assuming that’s true, wouldn’t that mean you are less capable?

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bombcar a day ago | parent [-]

Yes. There as difference between unfair and unreal; someone who is malnourished when growing up will forever likely be weaker than someone who received a proper sequence of meals.

We should perhaps recognize that and try to compensate for it, and it's not a value judgement on the person so afflicted, but pretending it doesn't exist just confuses matters.

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groundzeros2015 a day ago | parent [-]

If the difference is real I don’t think the test is the place to compensate as its function is to select people who will succeed in that area.

	▲	bombcar a day ago \| parent [-]
		That's been the entire fight over the last 20+ years, does the test identify anything real and if so, what should be done with it (equality of outcomes vs equality of opportunity, e.g.).