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mschuster91 a day ago

> That is why there is a beauty industry that centers around women and none for men.

Oh us men also have a beauty industry - or, I should rather say, an attractiveness industry. We just get sold different, and arguably far more pricier, things... luxury watches and cars, tailor-made suits and shoes, grooming, gym memberships.

And similar to how women got anorexia through unhealthy beauty standards for decades, that comes back to bite us men this time with "looksmaxxers" [1]...

> Clavicular attributes his looks to, among other things, taking testosterone from the age of 14 and smashing his jawbone with a hammer to supposedly reshape his lower face - neither of which is recommended by health professionals.

[1] https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cx28z4zypkno

threethirtytwo a day ago | parent [-]

No. These aren't beauty. It's status symbols. They are symbols of power, capability and utility. Men are judged by raw power and capability. The industry for beauty for men is more of a way for men to advertise raw capability. It is not "beauty" for "beauties" sake.

The beauty industry for women is more superficial. Make up for example serves nothing for status and everything for youth and beauty.

Now there are things like expensive jewelry... but this stuff doesn't help women in terms of attractiveness. That is not to say that women don't wear symbols of power...Jewelry is more of a status symbol for women advertising their status to other women: "Look at what my man got me, look at the power and status of a man that is in love with my beauty."

That is not to say beauty doesn't help men. But it does to a much lesser degree than women. Also your citation is a news article documenting a phenomenon. You need numbers to answer the question: Is this phenomenon an anomaly?? Or is it common place?

I think the answer is obvious, I mean the stuff I talk about here isn't anything new. It's just hard to talk about it because our culture has conditioned us to look away from the truth and more at artificial ideals of equality and balance. Men and women in reality are not equal. And this inequality doesn't necessarily "balance" out like yin and yang.

anal_reactor a day ago | parent [-]

The problem is that once people become aware how the society actually functions because of our biology, the social contract will collapse.

threethirtytwo a day ago | parent [-]

First, it's very unlikely all people will become aware of it. Our culture has made it taboo to even think in this direction.

Second, nothing will change. People will still behave based off of their instincts and underlying biology. Awareness of the underlying biology doesn't change anything. Men are very much always attracted to young women with nice curves even though they are well aware that this attraction is just an irrational biological instinct. Awareness does not change behavior, therefore, society will not collapse.

anal_reactor a day ago | parent [-]

Not necessarily. IMO the current demographic collapse can be mostly explained by people asking themselves whether they want children rather than just blindly putting penis into vagina.

threethirtytwo a day ago | parent [-]

No part of population growth was addiction to sex. Even people who didn’t want children would have children simply by wanting to fuck. That changed with birth control.

People still blindly put penises into vaginas and now more than ever women are blindly letting in more and more penises when in the past they were much more guarded.

anal_reactor a day ago | parent [-]

> No part of population growth was addiction to sex.

Bold claim.

threethirtytwo 20 hours ago | parent [-]

I mean that generally. We have sex for pleasure and for many it’s hard to abstain forever. I’m not referring to sex addiction as a chronic disease.

anal_reactor 18 hours ago | parent [-]

Yes. And sex results in babies. I cannot link to any resources backing that claim so you'll have to just trust me here.

threethirtytwo 14 hours ago | parent [-]

We have sex for pleasure. The baby is a side effect and that side effect is part of what caused population growth. Eliminate the side effect via birth control and people can now have sex for pleasure with no side effects.

That is what is driving the population down.

Your sarcastic remark here in a vain attempt to expose me only exposes your own complete misunderstanding.