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vluft 2 hours ago

nix & nixos are by far the worst way to manage system configuration, except for any other way that's been tried. imagine if there was something with declarative system configuration _not_ written in an insane undebuggable recursive nightmare of a language/stdlib? oh well, I'll keep using it, because what other options are there?

gausswho 2 hours ago | parent [-]

guix would like a word

sidkshatriya an hour ago | parent | next [-]

+1, Guix is quite good with some tricks up it's sleeve compared to Nix.

I am not a fan of S-expressions but using scheme is more reasonable than nix+bash to me.

On the negative side, guix can be slow. It is also not a very pragmatic os. NixOS does non-free firmware and drivers without issue. You need to jump through some hoops for this with Guix. This is not an issue if you plan to run guix in a VM though.

accelbred an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Does guix have a flake equivalent yet?

rowanG077 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

I mean it's pretty wild to take s-expressions and not call them extremely terrible to read. The nix language sucks really badly, but I gladly take it over writing S-expressions.

Pay08 an hour ago | parent [-]

It reads almost the exact same as any functional C-style language. Not to mention that specifically for Guix, you're going to be writing the (name value) form for 99% of it.

rowanG077 an hour ago | parent [-]

I don't agree at all. Just look at these derivations: https://codeberg.org/guix/guix/src/branch/master/gnu/package...

I counted and you regularly see this: "))))))))))" at the end. This is not a language that is optimizing for being written by humans.

Pay08 an hour ago | parent [-]

That link isn't working for me (something about AI detection), but as a point of accuracy, those aren't derivations, they're simple source files. Derivations are generated out of them.

As for the closing braces, would it be better if you had a newline between each?