| ▲ | expedition32 17 hours ago |
| The Catholic church has a very shall we say complicated stance on democracy, freedom of religion and human rights.
Nowadays they realise that the Western world has shifted from their theological and biblical position so they couch it in word salad sophistry. |
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| ▲ | notahacker 16 hours ago | parent | next [-] |
| Perhaps one unifying principle behind all the iterations of the Catholic church as social mores changed over time and its influence waxed and waned and was coopted by secular kingdoms, is that every single one of them might have written an article entitled "should Peter Thiel be burned at the stake", if someone had taken the time to explain Peter Thiel to them in terms they might understand. And concluded "yes, probably". |
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| ▲ | embedding-shape 17 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| The "nowadays" Catholic church, for better or worse, is also very, very different from the Catholic church that existed before "nowadays". They don't even engage in holy wars anymore, as just one example, that's up to other governments nowadays. |
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| ▲ | mtrovo 15 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | The interesting thing about religions as a whole is that the timespan is so big that you can really see how the backbone of the narrative stays the same while the fanbase and how they pick winners changes a lot, the Vatican state itself is a theocratic state created by an agreement between the pope and the Mussolini. And if you wanna go back even further just remember that while Europe and christian countries were living in the dark ages the Islamic world was the one driving forward scientific knowledge and the exchange of ideas with the East. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islamic_Golden_Age | |
| ▲ | nutjob2 16 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | They're not selling 'indulgences' these days either. | | |
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| ▲ | vrganj 16 hours ago | parent | prev [-] |
| One could also say that a two millenia old institution has evolved alongside the rest of humanity. |
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| ▲ | mikkupikku 16 hours ago | parent [-] | | Two thousand years and they still haven't figured out that Christ wasn't covering himself in gold and jewels. The Vatican has evolved, but not to conform to the ideals espoused by Christ. Note also that evolution isn't synonymous with progress. Lamprey eels evolve too. | | |
| ▲ | vrganj 16 hours ago | parent [-] | | Look, I'm not a fan of the Church either. But I appreciate them smacking down this lunatic. | | |
| ▲ | mikkupikku 15 hours ago | parent [-] | | "When a devil gets caught by a monster, I, as a human being, can only hope that they both die." |
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