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embedding-shape 17 hours ago

The "nowadays" Catholic church, for better or worse, is also very, very different from the Catholic church that existed before "nowadays". They don't even engage in holy wars anymore, as just one example, that's up to other governments nowadays.

mtrovo 15 hours ago | parent | next [-]

The interesting thing about religions as a whole is that the timespan is so big that you can really see how the backbone of the narrative stays the same while the fanbase and how they pick winners changes a lot, the Vatican state itself is a theocratic state created by an agreement between the pope and the Mussolini.

And if you wanna go back even further just remember that while Europe and christian countries were living in the dark ages the Islamic world was the one driving forward scientific knowledge and the exchange of ideas with the East. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islamic_Golden_Age

nutjob2 16 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

They're not selling 'indulgences' these days either.

TheOtherHobbes 13 hours ago | parent [-]

Luckily people like Paula White-Cain have picked up that banner and they're running it, hard.