| ▲ | crop_rotation 4 hours ago | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
HN is full of people saying ABCD should know better and honestly I thought the same, but when I look at almost all of my friends working in critical domains like as a judge or engineer or lawyer or even doctor, they seem to trust ChatGPT more or less blindly. People get defensive when I point out out to them that ChatGPT will make things up and it is widely know, and some even tell me it is the fault of "tech people" for not fixing it and they can't be expected to double check every chatgpt conversation. So I am very sure this problem is more prevalent than what we see and also that it is going to continue increasing. | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| ▲ | WarmWash 3 hours ago | parent | next [-] | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Every single person, every one of them, that I have watched google something since AI overviews launched, will instantly reference the AI overview. And that model is some bottom-rung high volume model, not even gemini. | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
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| ▲ | jacquesm an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-] | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Yes, this is the problem. You give people something that has an oracular interface they will treat it like an oracle. | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| ▲ | andrewflnr 4 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Your friends should know better. That their behavior is prevalent does not contradict that. | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
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| ▲ | friedtofu 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
I think this is an issue with anyone who relies on any LLMs. But yeah I agree and have had similar issues where someone will get defensive because they just don't want to admit they(the LLM's response) were wrong. It's hard to tell someone in a "nice/nonchalant" way: "It's fine, the LLM just lied to you, but hallucinations and making claims based off of assumptions is just something they do and always have done!" People don't like to feel dumb, and they don't want to feel betrayed by the same tool that gave them incredible factually correct results that one time only to give them complete and utter bullshit(that sounded legitimate) another time. Also, yeah it feels like its everywhere these days and isn't showing any signs of slowing down(visited my parents and my dads using siri to ask chatgpt stuff now - URGHHHH) and I really hope we're both wrong | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| ▲ | joe_mamba 4 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
>but when I look at almost all of my friends working in critical domains like as a judge or engineer or lawyer or even doctor, they seem to trust ChatGPT more or less blindly That's why I lost trust and faith in people who end up in positions of doctor, lawyer or judge. When I was young I used to think they must be the smartest most high-IQ people in society, having read the most books and have the highest levels of critical thinking and debate skills ever. When in fact they were only good at memorizing and regurgitating the right information that the school required to pass the exam that gave them that prestigious title and that's it. Now in my mid 30's when I talk to people from these professions at a beer, barbeque or any other casual gathering, I realize they're really not that sharp or well read or immune propaganda and misinformation, and anyone could be in their place if they put in the grind work at the right time. It's a miracle our society functions at all. | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| ▲ | pessimizer 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
> almost all of my friends working in critical domains like as a judge or engineer or lawyer or even doctor, they seem to trust ChatGPT more or less blindly. We do not live in a meritocracy, because society has no means to judge merit. We live in a society ruled by people who crammed before the tests, and who wrote the papers to agree with and flatter the teacher. Now they are the teachers (and bosses), and 1) expect to be flattered (and LLMs have been built as the ultimate flatterers), 2) feel that a good, ambitious student (or subordinate) will not question them and their work, but instead learn to conform to it, and 3) are not particularly interested in the quality of their work as such, but rather the acceptance of their work. In certain professions, such as judges, doctors, high-level lawyers and engineers, or politicians, they feel like (with good reason) that they can demand acceptance of their work, and punish those who don't accept it. This position is what they worked so hard as young people for. They were not working to become the best at their jobs. They were working to get the most secure jobs. The most secure jobs are the ones that bad or lazy work doesn't endanger. | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| ▲ | doctorpangloss 4 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
on the flip side, so much chatgpt usage, full of flaws, doesn't seem to really matter in various "critical domains." you can't generalize "critical." | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||