| ▲ | XorNot 10 hours ago |
| I feel like downplaying 1.8 degrees C of performance is a weird choice in the article. 1.8 degrees C is a huge temperature change in biology. Human bodies keep thermal equilibrium in a margin smaller then that. |
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| ▲ | ropable 3 hours ago | parent | next [-] |
| I didn't quite clock what they meant in that paragraph. I'm pretty sure that a 1.8 degree drop in body temp is approaching hypothermia. |
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| ▲ | adonovan 9 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| Also weird phrasing: "a staggering 1.8 degrees" begs the reader to think of it as a large number (which in fact it is, as you point out) yet their intent seems to be, ironically and paradoxically, to diminish it. |
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| ▲ | altairprime 8 hours ago | parent [-] | | I felt like that’s more like a rhetorical device for shorthand-saying “one might expect a ten or twenty degree difference based on modern marketing”, and I’m annoyed the article didn’t say that because it’s a pretty good point delivered rather poorly. | | |
| ▲ | alistairSH 8 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | A 20* swing in body temp would render you dead… | | |
| ▲ | altairprime 7 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | Yep! That's what makes marketing against the imaginary foil of death so impactful: the alternative, "if not for our technical fabric, you'd have to fluctuate between zero and six layers of fabric based on exertion, humidity, inclement weather, and personal thermal comfort", is a lot less manipulative than "wear our fabric or die before the peak". Sure, it's true that you have to wear something or die (unless you're a statistical anomaly, anyways), but marketing based on glove weight doesn't cause as many sales as marketing based on frostbite. | |
| ▲ | bryanrasmussen 8 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | One might expect to be dead if following Modern marketing guidelines. |
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| ▲ | pinkmuffinere 5 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | It would be hilarious if they did find a 10 degree difference. “Old gear keeps you chilly but fine. Modern gear straight up kills you!” |
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| ▲ | fellowniusmonk 10 hours ago | parent | prev [-] |
| Also: Freezing right away when you stop moving at 8k altitude? I was just skiing at 11k and it never even crossed my mind. |
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| ▲ | Scarblac 10 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | 8k meters. There is no place at 11k where you can ski. | | | |
| ▲ | MagnumOpus 10 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | Yes. They were talking about 8,000 metres of altitude. (Talking about Mallory should have been a clue too.) | |
| ▲ | ghaff 10 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | Not right away. But a lot depends on the wind. | |
| ▲ | jhellan 10 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | The article says meters, not feet. |
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