| ▲ | llm_nerd 18 hours ago | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Gemini does the same thing. For every question it looks to extend the conversation into natural follow-up questions, always ending a response with "Would you like to know more about {some important aspect of the answer}?" And...I don't see it as a bad thing. It's trying to encourage use of the tool by reducing the friction to continued conversations, making it an ordinary part of your life by proving that it provides value. It's similar to Netflix telling you other shows you might like because they want to continue providing value to justify the subscription. | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| ▲ | Al-Khwarizmi 6 hours ago | parent | next [-] | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
My impression is that Gemini does it in a quite natural way. It answers your questions, and then suggests possible related questions that you might ask, which I find useful. But ChatGPT feels extremely baity. Like it doesn't answer your question, but only 80% of it, leaving the other 20% on purpose for the bait. And then when you ask the second question it answers with another incomplete fact leaving things for the bait, and so on. As an analogy, it's as if when asked for the seasons of the year, Gemini said "spring, summer, autumn and winter, do you also want to know when each season starts and ends, or maybe they climate?" and ChatGPT said "The first three seasons are spring, summer and autumn. The fourth one is really interesting and many people don't know it, would you like to tell me about it?" It's an exaggeration, of course, but in complex questions it feels to me exactly like that. And I find it so annoying that I'm thinking of canceling my subscription if it keeps behaving that way. | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
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| ▲ | miroljub 17 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
> Gemini does the same thing. For every question it looks to extend the conversation into natural follow-up questions, always ending a response with "Would you like to know more about {some important aspect of the answer}?" If the aspect of the answer is important, wouldn't it be better just not to skip it? > And...I don't see it as a bad thing. It's trying to encourage use of the tool by reducing the friction to continued conversations, making it an ordinary part of your life by proving that it provides value. To me, it just adds friction. Why do I have to beg and ask multiple times to get an answer they already know I'm looking for but still decide to withhold? It's neither natural nor helpful. It's manipulative. > It's similar to Netflix telling you other shows you might like because they want to continue providing value to justify the subscription. It's not the same, because Netflix doesn't hide important movie sequences from you behind a question "If you like, I can show you this important scene that I just fast forwarded." | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
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| ▲ | underlipton 7 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
The line between, "You knew I wanted you to do that, and you didn't, so you could ask me if you could, to increase engagement/token use," and, "No, that's completely extraneous, I don't want to do that at all," is razor-thin (tantamount to nonexistent). Either it takes time and energy to determine if the suggestion is actually useful, or it's annoying to see because I will always have my own idea of what I want to happen next (if at all) that it rarely hits on. Anyone who has the same perspective sees it as a bad thing. There are at least 10 of us. >It's trying to encourage use of the tool Don't fracking do that, either the tool is useful or it isn't. | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||