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miroljub 17 hours ago

> Gemini does the same thing. For every question it looks to extend the conversation into natural follow-up questions, always ending a response with "Would you like to know more about {some important aspect of the answer}?"

If the aspect of the answer is important, wouldn't it be better just not to skip it?

> And...I don't see it as a bad thing. It's trying to encourage use of the tool by reducing the friction to continued conversations, making it an ordinary part of your life by proving that it provides value.

To me, it just adds friction. Why do I have to beg and ask multiple times to get an answer they already know I'm looking for but still decide to withhold? It's neither natural nor helpful. It's manipulative.

> It's similar to Netflix telling you other shows you might like because they want to continue providing value to justify the subscription.

It's not the same, because Netflix doesn't hide important movie sequences from you behind a question "If you like, I can show you this important scene that I just fast forwarded."

llm_nerd 17 hours ago | parent [-]

Groan. This is performative outrage and it's just boorish. The other person noted that ChatGPT uses bait-type continuations (Gemini and Claude do not), and sure that is a problem, but your reply is just noise. Beg? Christ.

There is utterly nothing wrong with AI engines offering continuation questions. But there's always something for people to whine about.

Humans do not want to ask a question and get a book in response. They just don't. No one, including you, wants such a response. And if you did get such a response I absolutely guarantee, given this performative outrage, that you'd be the first to complain about it.

CursedSilicon 16 hours ago | parent [-]

People having different opinions to you is not "performative"

llm_nerd 16 hours ago | parent [-]

"Why do I have to beg and ask multiple times to get an answer they already know I'm looking for but still decide to withhold?"

Performative with zero correlation with the actual topic at hand, but purposefully using ridiculously leading language to bait the gullible (which apparently includes you). It has nothing to do with a different opinion, it's someone choosing a polarised position and then just streaming nonsense to support it.

And I mean, then I looked at the rest of their comments on this site and it all made sense and was perfectly on brand. Facebook-tier rhetoric.

So maybe you should save white knighting for trolls?

EDIT: the troll is now opining that these are LLM-generated. Good god.

CursedSilicon 16 hours ago | parent [-]

Am I gullible or white knighting?

Or do I simply disagree with you enough to comment?

I guess you could go ask the slop machine and come back :)

miroljub 15 hours ago | parent | next [-]

I'm pretty sure the last two llm_nerd's comments were AI generated.

What I am not sure about is if it was just laziness or a subtle prank showing how AI can be used to manipulate users to more interaction in a Facebook way.

CursedSilicon 13 hours ago | parent [-]

I don't think it's (all) AI generated. But they seem to be weirdly determined to gaslight me about my own opinions on their comments

Thinking way too deeply into it. Maybe that's the troll. "Look how easily manipulated people are. I don't even need AI to do it!"

llm_nerd 14 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

>Am I gullible or white knighting?

Why do you think these are exclusive choices? You are gullibly white knighting for an obvious troll. Their other reply to you betrays that they're just a noisemaker, and you're dutifully carrying water for them.

CursedSilicon 13 hours ago | parent [-]

Nah. Their reply was far more nuanced than your weird gaslighting of "you don't have your own opinions! You're being trolled by the person you agree with!"

llm_nerd 13 hours ago | parent [-]

I have no idea what your "opinion" is here. You ran in to defend someone, bizarrely, and you keep yipping about how you're being gaslit. Bizarre stuff.

Wait, maybe you've been an LLM all along!

Anyway, I think I'm done with you, so hope you have a good day. Go back and reply with the alt, after consulting the "slop machine". :)

CursedSilicon 12 hours ago | parent [-]

Anything to defend your own ego I suppose...