| ▲ | jstummbillig 7 hours ago | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
> Ethically, if you do not agree with the company you work at, the optimal course of action if you can stomach it is to stay and do a bad job rather than get replaced by someone who might do a good job. What...? In what way is it anything other than highly unethical to sabotage someone you have a contract with, because you disagree with them? | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| ▲ | 47282847 7 hours ago | parent | next [-] | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Plenty of historical examples of work environments where sabotage would have been the most ethical thing to do (and often you will only know in hindsight). But yeah in most circumstances a simple disagreement doesn’t warrant the psychological cost of such sabotage. | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
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| ▲ | Teever 3 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-] | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
"Don't struggle only within the ground rules that the people you're struggling against have laid down." -- Malcolm X "If you're unhappy with your job you don't strike. You just go in there every day, and do it really half-assed. That's the American way. -- Homer Simpson "To steal from a brother or sister is evil. To not steal from the institutions that are the pillars of the Pig Empire is equally immoral." -- Abbie Hoffman Some might consider it unethical but others might also consider it immoral to not do what you're describing. I guess you're fortunate enough to have only worked at places where your moral framework matched up with their business practices and treatment of the staff. That isn't the case for most people. Most people are put into situations at one time or another where the people they're working for don't value them as equals, where the people they work for casually violate reasonable laws like product safety or enivronmental standards laws and what's worse these people will suffer no consequences for doing so. No White Knight in shining armour is going to come from the government to shut them down. No lightning from heaven will strike them down. No financial penalty to dissuade them from further defection from society and the common man in the game that is life. So what do you do? Do you do nothing? Just put your nose to the grindstone and keep working for the man? Do you quit, only to end up penniless and jobless, with poor prospects of an alternative, and even if you found one maybe it's 'meet the new boss same as the old boss'? Nah, you cone into work every day and you subtly fuck it up. You subtly fuck it up and you take whatever value you can extract. They'd do the same to you. They are doing the same to you. | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| ▲ | swiftcoder 5 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
> In what way is it anything other than highly unethical to sabotage someone Ethics is more complicated than that. Is it unethical to sabotage your employer if your employed is themselves acting unethically? | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| ▲ | freeone3000 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Have we gotten so lost that “working against your enemies” is no longer something we aspire to do? | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| ▲ | ako 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Assume you work for e.g., a cigarette company. A company responsible for many deaths by unethically adding highly addictive substances. By sabotaging the company you are making this world a better place. Ethically it's the right thing to do. Or, assume you're hired by the Nazi to work in concentration camps. Ethically it's the right thing to do to sabotage their gas chambers. | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| ▲ | cheschire 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
You’ve seen Schindler’s List, right? | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| ▲ | LtWorf 4 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Let's say you work for elon musk and are a decent person… | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
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