TBF they have made major improvements, IMHO, to Jira and Confluence over the past few years.

000ooo000 5 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Anything in particular? I first used it about 10 years ago, on prem, and am currently using the cloud version. Current edition is clunky, slow, and constantly badgers me with Rovo shit I can't disable. IMHO, it reeks of a product once built by and for technical people that eventually got dumbed down by POs to the point of being painful for the original users. Obviously I'm no longer the target user because I assume someone somewhere appreciates these changes.

	▲	Rapzid 3 hours ago \| parent [-]
		The performance, at least on our cloud instance, has greatly improved. There was a period of time where every load was causing the side bar and other components to slowly load with skeletons everywhere. There are still skeletons but a lot of the page components load instantly(cached) and others load quite quickly. Tons of UI "jank" has been cleaned up across Jira and Confluence. The UI design, in general, has also finally cleaned up nicely and "settled". Confluence articles load very fast now. They have also added Live documents which is a very welcome addition. Is Jira still bloated? Yeah, but that doesn't preclude improvements. It feels less bloated now to me. YMMV.

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llama052 4 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

I'd argue the opposite. The thing is so bloated and the simplest of things seem to be so hard. Import markdown in confluence? Nope not natively. Add an issue to the board? better go to the one workflow to do it and not in the actual ticket.

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conception 2 hours ago | parent [-]

Confluence supports markdown natively. Even its MCP uses markdown.

I don’t know exactly what the other issue is referring to.

	▲	1313ed01 an hour ago \| parent [-]
		Confluence used to be built on top of pretty standard plain wiki markup that could be edited without being forced into a bad visual editor, even easy to edit in an external text editor to not have to spend so much time in the web UI at all. I remember having an Emacs mode for it installed. Looking this up now, Wikipedia says the wiki markup was abandoned already in 2011. Not that I think Confluence was ever a great wiki, but at least having pages that were backed by some resonable plaintext markup was much better than not having that.

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telman17 4 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Perhaps I just haven't noticed them, which is unfortunate. I have noticed that I often have to double or triple click to open a ticket on my board. There's no reason for such a core functionality to be that slow.

	▲	jamesfinlayson 3 hours ago \| parent \| next [-]
		The only Jira improvement that I can remember from the last 11 years is being able to drag and drop subtasks (maybe it was up and down arrows before that). Everything else has been UI changes as far as I've seen.
	▲	marc_g 2 hours ago \| parent \| prev [-]
		Same! This nightmare seems to have started recently from what I have experienced. I find myself hard refreshing constantly to get the damn tickets to open. If anyone from atlassian reads this: please, for the love of god resolve this issue.