> The Neo doesn’t have a hardware indicator light for the camera. The indication for “camera in use” is only in the menu bar. There’s a privacy/security implication for this omission. According to Apple, the hardware indicator light for camera-in-use on MacBooks, iPhones, and iPads cannot be circumvented by software. If the camera is on, that light comes on, and no software can disable it. Because the Neo’s only camera-in-use indicator is in the menu bar, that seems obviously possible to circumvent via software.

iPhone and iPad does not have a hardware indicator light

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hinkley 18 minutes ago | parent | next [-]

That's going to be a problem for the education market though.

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zarzavat 3 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Arguably with SIP a hardware indicator light is not strictly necessary, the OS could force the indicator pixels to be lit.

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madeofpalk 2 hours ago | parent [-]

Isn't the argument that a hardware indicator light is (more) immune to bugs? If its just software, you're a software exploit/bug away from finding a way to access the sensor without tripping the software light.

	▲	bigfishrunning an hour ago \| parent \| next [-]
		This depends on how the light is implemented -- if it's implemented in the camera module itself it's pretty bulletproof, but i would bet it's just a gpio to the processor on most of these devices and controlled by the os anyway. I could be wrong about that, but I err on the side of caution. I keep my phone in a bag most of the time. Treat every gun as if it's loaded, and every camera as if it's filming.
	▲	halapro an hour ago \| parent \| prev [-]
		Yes but also this has never been an issue on any phones (i.e. never heard a complaint), and you take that to the toilet. By comparison a laptop camera has much less access to your private life. People who are truly worried about cameras will cover it regardless of indicator.