TV examples show that Apple simply has done their scrolling right, while everyone else did not work out the necessary details.

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IneffablePigeon 4 hours ago | parent [-]

Except the other examples used to work like Apple’s and have switched to the scroll locked implementation.

I think I prefer that mode to be honest, because it leaves you in a consistent place for up/down to take you to instead of it potentially depending where your selection is in the row.

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vessenes 2 hours ago | parent [-]

Yeah the real pain is button pressing down / up / back in the TV UI. Definitely a fun grab bag of possible outcomes! I don’t think there’s a good solution without a militant UI person in charge of the whole shebang - some radical simplification would likely be needed.

The reality is that the click ipod was much better at scrolling media than the Apple TV is. And I own a lot of Apple TVs - I think it’s a good device. But it was far faster to scroll through media 20 years ago.

	▲	unpixel8 2 hours ago \| parent [-]
		you can navigate lists (and scrub media playback) on Apple TV using the iPod click wheel gesture! > Circle your finger around the clickpad ring for more precise control (silver remote only). https://support.apple.com/guide/tv/navigate-apple-tv-4k-atvb...