| ▲ | zmgsabst a day ago | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
It was already going downhill a decade ago, eg, using bad think on video games. But my personal experience is something snapped in a lot of people during COVID when people asked reasonable questions like — “is an experimental gene therapy really QALY positive in populations not at risk, such as healthy children?” According to government actuarial tables, the answer was no: the UK government concluded that there was no point at which for those under 40 the immunizations prevented more serious outcomes than they caused. But people were (and often still are) absolutely rabid if you point out we (in administering a QALY negative treatment to a vulnerable population) decided to poison children and young adults en masse. I’ve had people look up my mother on Facebook for calmly citing UK government actuarial reports, which did the calculation on COVID vs vaccine harms. That’s setting aside that on HN you’d get shadowbanned for even posting the clip of BLM leaders describing themselves as “trained Marxists” and BLM itself as Marxist in ideology. Apparently, no matter how politely you state facts, if HN froths irrationally in response it is an “inherent flamewar”. But I’m not sure I qualify for what you’re asking, as I generally post under my true identity, not anonymously. | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| ▲ | datsci_est_2015 a day ago | parent | next [-] | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Your examples are tips of icebergs that indicate much more problematic opinions. I’m not shocked you received pushback. | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
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| ▲ | eth0up 21 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Just noting that I appreciate all the examples given here and by others, many of which made me feel a bit stupid and amnesic for asking my original question. I guess I have been over-focused on AI... | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| ▲ | majormajor 20 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
> That’s setting aside that on HN you’d get shadowbanned for even posting the clip of BLM leaders describing themselves as “trained Marxists” and BLM itself as Marxist in ideology. Apparently, no matter how politely you state facts, if HN froths irrationally in response it is an “inherent flamewar”. Funny how you mention this like you expect everyone to take for granted that Marxist=bad and worth "hiding" etc... whereas negative reactions are likely due more towards that internal judgement discrediting yourself, vs trying to "hide the Marxism." You think you can discredit people by saying "they're Marxists!" and yet you think people today are uniquely bad snowflakes about views they don't like. You're proposing that people are more likely to cry thoughtcrime now than in the past, by inadvertently exposing how you've bought into this idea of how just invoking the name of some old philosopher is worth demonization and has been for DECADES in many western countries... Specs and logs, motes and beams. Which specific points from which specific Marx texts piss you off so much? (It's also funny that you didn't actually link to any of the things you stated. I don't care about the things you brought up enough to go hunting for them myself to try do prove or disprove you, but... do you really think saying "I can't cite these simple facts without getting in trouble" *without even citing them, just asking us to believe you that they're easily cite-able, is gonna go over so convincingly?) | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
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