Remix.run Logo
datsci_est_2015 a day ago

Your examples are tips of icebergs that indicate much more problematic opinions. I’m not shocked you received pushback.

zmgsabst a day ago | parent [-]

That’s exactly my point:

HN is a place where people don’t ask what is true with intellectual curiosity but classify opinions as “problematic” and justify bullying people based on that.

HN becomes emotionally upset if you discuss actuarial tables or quote people’s own words from their own presentations because those facts go against the narratives many on HN believe — and like many before them, people on HN believe censorship and bullying are justified by that emotional turmoil.

As you just did, impugning my character while carefully avoiding the veracity of my claims — only saying they’re “problematic”, as a good apparatchik would.

1shooner 21 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Do you have a citation for said actuarial tables? I think HN is often critical of objective claims without objective references.

hellojesus 19 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

HN was one of the best places for finding cited research regarding covid and the mrna tech at the time.

With all the other conflicting information floating around online, it was a breath of fresh air to come to HN and see articles describing exactly how mrna works and why it was likely not a health risk, complete with thoughtful discussion. I'm too lazy to go look up citations and reference those old posts, so you can take this as anecdotal.

datsci_est_2015 13 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Little bit of projection in this comment, I would say. I didn’t reference your character, just your opinions - to equate the two is a bit juvenile - which now may be a reference to your character.

Also, “problematic” is perhaps the least emotional word I could have used, and yet you still found issue with it.

I would advise you stop viewing HN as a monolith, it will help you get over your victim complex, which will in turn hopefully help you see opinions as things worth changing based on new information, rather than value for your character.

Garnish0062 a day ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Much indeed. The word "problematic" is one of the most terribly overused words in today's age.

datsci_est_2015 13 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Yeah it’s a euphemism and a bit of a shibboleth, which, like all shibboleths, can be a bit triggering to those who feel outgrouped by it.

I could’ve been more precise: “opinions that are based on weak evidence that confirm a certain preimagined view of the world rather than challenge it”.

expedition32 12 hours ago | parent [-]

Ah a fancy description for religion!

I would like to say that this is why my country turned to atheism but really it was the Sunday morning.

gusgus01 21 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

I mean they made claims about the efficacy and risks of the COVID vaccine without sourcing them and used verbiage like "poisoning our children" to refer to vaccinating them. I think tip of the iceberg for "problematic opinions" is a fair response.

20 hours ago | parent | prev [-]
[deleted]