| ▲ | michaelmior 2 days ago | |
> Would it be a fair argument to say the police have a better opportunity to prevent crimes if they can enter your house without a warrant? This is a false equivalency. I don't have to use TikTok DMs if I want E2EE. I don't have a choice about laws that allow the police to violate my rights. I'm not claiming that all E2EE apps should be banned. > Right, but this is worlds apart from "sharing the encryption key with a private company", is it not? Exactly why I suggested that as a possible alternative. | ||
| ▲ | danlitt a day ago | parent [-] | |
> This is a false equivalency. I'm not making an equivalency. I'm just trying to get you to think how something that is at surface level true is not necessarily a "fair argument". > I don't have to use TikTok DMs if I want E2EE. I don't know why you think this is a convincing argument. It is currently illegal to tap people's phone lines, but when phones were invented it obviously was not illegal. It became illegal in part because people had a reasonable expectation of privacy when using the phone. They also have a reasonable expectation of privacy when using TikTok DMs - that's why people call them "private messages" so often! > Exactly why I suggested that as a possible alternative. My point is that you are offering these as alternatives when they are profoundly different proposals. It is like me saying I am pro forced sterilization and then offering as an alternative "we could just only allow it when people ask for it". That's a completely different thing! Having autonomy over your online life as a family rather than necessarily as an individual is totally ok. Surrendering that autonomy is not. | ||