Offering „You are welcome“ relocation package to Anthropic might be a good idea.

Imustaskforhelp 8 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Given how American govt. has treated Anthropic, I think you might be right. EU truly has a remarkable opportunity to make Anthropic/Claude European.

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petcat 8 hours ago | parent | next [-]

This US administration (or any admin) would almost certainly impose export controls on US AI technology before it would allow one of the frontier model providers to be acquired/relocate outside the US. It did the same thing when ASML wanted to acquire Cymer (California company that provides the EUV light source technology). The acquisition was only allowed under strict technology sharing/export agreements with the Dutch government.

Europe really just needs to rally behind Mistral. That's where they should dump their cash.

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fc417fc802 5 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Can they actually prevent it though? In typical cases there would be IP licenses involved. But in this case it's a valuation based (AFAICT) on a team of people plus their infra. What happens if they all just happened to get hired by "AnthropicEU GmbH" a new entity which has been gifted hundreds of millions in computing resources?

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ivan_gammel 6 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Having one „champion“ is flawed European approach. We need local competition and headhunting to make it fly.

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azinman2 6 hours ago | parent [-]

Hard to compete in an environment that’s anti-996 and the pay is so much less.

	▲	ivan_gammel 3 hours ago \| parent [-]
		Yes. 996 is for lazy people.

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impossiblefork 5 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

I'm not sure goals are totally aligned though. The current models are created by enormous expense. We know that many stages are done incorrectly. I am confident that they can be replicated without any unique US knowledge.

At the moment my impression is instead that the issue is computational resources. It's important to stay near the frontier though, and to build up ones capacity to train large models.

Consequently I don't think we need Anthropic. It wouldn't be terrible if they came. Especially if they picked a nice location. Barcelona would be very nice, for example.

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lejalv 5 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Given what Amodei thinks of spying non-US citizens, that's a hard pass from me. If you are that loyal (servile) to your country leaders, don't go elsewhere when you "discover" they are thugs. Put up with it or revolt (as Iranians are being asked to do).

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ekianjo 3 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

There is no capital in the EU

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cmrdporcupine 8 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Anthropic has gone out of their way to make a point about how much they love and admire the US state and its defense sector. Only drawing the line at a very far point and even when they drew the line it was with a big thing about how they believe in the American defense sector blah blah blah.

In any case, there's no way Anthropic's investors in Silicon Valley would countenance such a move.

Also, I'm biased the logical place is Canada, not Europe. Much of the fundamental/foundational research on LLMs, and a large part of the talent, came from universities in Canada anyways.