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philipallstar 7 hours ago

Imagine Hamas are your government and want to figure out who's gay. You don't want a MITM in case they can do this.

Pick your definition of safe.

trashb 7 hours ago | parent | next [-]

In that case don't use Tiktok dm's to discuss your sexuality. I think it is strange that people feel like they have to be able to talk on sensitive topics over every interface they can get their hands on.

Similarly in "traditional" media you may not want to discuss such private conversation on a radio broadcast. Perhaps you would rather discuss it on the phone or over snail mail as there is more of an expectation of privacy on those medium.

roughly 24 minutes ago | parent | next [-]

Right, but it currently isn't a sensitive topic - homosexuality is, as of 2026, broadly legal in the United States. That's a relatively new state of affairs, historically speaking, and one which Afghanistan shared as recently as 2021.

philipallstar 5 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

I'm commenting in the context of the conversation, not in a vacuum. You could just as (in fact, much more) easily say that children shouldn't be on apps with private messaging enabled. That would help a lot more, and then we could keep e2ee.

danlitt 7 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

> there is more of an expectation of privacy on those medium

What does the "p" in "pm" stand for?

trashb 6 hours ago | parent | next [-]

excuse me, I confused "Private messages" (pm) for "Direct messages" (dm).

I will update above

danlitt an hour ago | parent [-]

I don't think you confused anything, except for the terminology the platform uses. There is an obvious expectation of privacy when sending direct messages!

gzread 6 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

it stands for "not a public timeline post"

danlitt an hour ago | parent [-]

It should be obvious from how contrived your wording is that nobody thinks of them this way.

miki123211 7 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

This is fine if you have TLS encryption and the platform is not local.

Sure, they can fabricate some evidence and get access to your messages, in which case, valid point.