| ▲ | alephnerd 4 hours ago | |
This. EM is a terminal position that does not own the product roadmap (Product Management) nor the underlying implementation (Staff/Principal Engineers). They primarily own delivery and execution because orgs can't be bothered to hire program managers anymore. If you are great at managing upwards and ensuring delivery by hook or by crook, you will make a great EM. But the next jump after EM is extremely difficult because you are competing with Principal Engineers and technical-minded PMs making a lateral move and cofounders who are being managed out by the board; and dealing with micromanaging CTOs or CPTOs. | ||
| ▲ | Illniyar 2 hours ago | parent [-] | |
Are you saying principal engineers and tech minded PMs make lateral moves into director level manager without going through being entry level EMs first? I've never heard of something like that. Usually the requirement for being director level manager of engineers is to at least have managed people as an EM for several years before. | ||