It is impossible to accurately imitate the action of intelligent beings without being intelligent. To believe otherwise is to believe that intelligence is a vacuous property.

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slopinthebag an hour ago | parent | next [-]

An unintelligent device can accurately imitate the action of intelligent beings within a given scope, in the same way an actor can accurately imitate the action of a fictional character in a given scope (the stage or camera) without actually being that character.

If the idea is that something cannot accurately replicate the entirety of intelligence without being intelligent itself, then perhaps. But that isn't really what people talk about with LLMs given their obvious limitations.

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qsera 5 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

>It is impossible to accurately imitate the action of intelligent beings without being intelligent.

Wait what? So a robot who is accurately copying the actions of an intelligent human, is intelligent?

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UltraSane 2 hours ago | parent | next [-]

How can you distinguish intelligence form a sufficiently accurate imitation of intelligence?

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slopinthebag an hour ago | parent [-]

By "sufficiently accurate" do you mean identical? Because if so, it's not an imitation of intelligence at all, and the question is thus nonsensical.

	▲	UltraSane 44 minutes ago \| parent [-]
		"it's not an imitation of intelligence at all" But that is the key insight, how can you tell when an imitation of intelligence becomes the real thing?

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empath75 4 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

That was probably phrased poorly. If a robot can independently accurately do what an intelligent person would do when placed in a novel situation, then yes, I would say it is intelligent.

If it's just basically being a puppet, then no. You tell me what claude code is more like, a puppet, or a person?