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hackyhacky 2 hours ago

Yes, I had noticed that Nazis and racists feel more comfortable speaking up. On the contrary, voices for peace and acceptance are shouted down and frequently defunded. The Overton window isn't larger, it's just more right.

monero-xmr 6 minutes ago | parent | next [-]

My hunch is you would call me a Nazi for saying very mainstream things, but out loud and public in my blue city, such as “checking ID to vote is a good thing”. Very popular opinions were made “Nazi”

qsera 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

>voices for peace and acceptance..

context matters. Without understanding context and considering it, this can be quite stupid.

> defunded

That is not so bad, right? It is not like they are wiped off the face of the earth. They just lose free $$$. Free $$$ means they are asking for free work from the rest of the society.

If a government feels that they don't contribute positively to the society, then it is quite within their right to prevent the work of society going to them. Particularly when the society have voted for the same.

>Nazis and racists

Oh come on, that is just lazy. Every swing of the pendulum causes the previously oppressed opinions to surface. This will always include malicious ones too that were rightfully suppressed before. That does not mean every voice that is enabled is a "Nazi". If you start saying that, then you becomes part of the problem.

hackyhacky an hour ago | parent [-]

> That is not so bad, right? It is not like they are wiped off the face of the earth. They just lose free $$$.

I have no idea where you get the idea of "free money." The government invests in science, business, and developments that help the country; and decisions involving that investment should not be colored by adherence to the current administration's political agenda. I'm not concerned about the careers of the affected individuals, as unjust as that is; I'm concerned about the damage to the country, to our relationship with our allies, and to our standing in the world. Instead we get this: Businesses that flatter Trump get to have acquisitions, and those that don't get their contracts cancelled. The new "political correctness" is towing the line for Trumpian misinformation.

I'm also not just talking about investments, but employment. Think about the jobs of federal employees for daring to have an opinion that contradicts Dear Leader.

> If a government feels that they don't contribute positively to the society,

That's a disingenuous argument. No one believes that the Trump administration is making decisions about who to support based on what is good for the country. Paramount's acquisition of WBD will be allowed for no other reason than because it helps Trump. Universities are targeted not because they are doing bad work but because they are seen as popular among the opposition. The government is defunding research not because it isn't contributing positively, but because it contradicts the government's a priori talking points. The damage done to society as a result of the defunding is, for them, just collateral damage.

> That does not mean every voice that is enabled is a "Nazi"

I never said that every voice on the right is a Nazi, just that Nazis are among those voices. And that's enough for me: if the government is supporting any Nazis and racists, as they evidently are, that's too many. And if your argument is "Hey, not all of us are literal Nazis", then you are not doing anything to advance your position.