My hunch is you would call me a Nazi for saying very mainstream things, but out loud and public in my blue city, such as “checking ID to vote is a good thing”. Very popular opinions were made “Nazi”

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Dylan16807 39 minutes ago | parent | next [-]

The big problem with checking IDs is not the checking, it's the people with the right to vote that don't have IDs. (and can't get one super easily)

So with that noted, when people make false claims of high levels of voter fraud, to justify government intervention that disenfranchises people, that falls into the fascism bucket.

And anyone that stays in favor of those actions despite these explanations gets to be in the same bucket.

Whether modern American fascism should actually get the word "Nazi", I'm not very fussed about. It doesn't make a person automatically right or wrong.

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monero-xmr 23 minutes ago | parent [-]

That’s just racist. You have an extremely racist opinion. You can’t get anything in society without identification. Not welfare, nor transportation, nor even enrollment into school. To pretend every single thing in society is so important to be gated by ID, except voting, is insanity. America is literally the only country on earth without ID required to vote!

	▲	Dylan16807 16 minutes ago \| parent \| next [-]
		I can't even guess what you think is racist in what I said about voting. And listen, I'm all for requiring IDs if we make sure 99.999% of people have an ID first. But actual decisions must be made based on the actual situation. We're not even to 99% right now.
	▲	hackyhacky 11 minutes ago \| parent \| prev [-]
		> You can’t get anything in society without identification Statements like this show that you are living in a bubble with little connection to people outside your immediate social circle. LOTS of people don't have government ID of any kind, much less one that proves citizenship (basically birth certificate or passport). About half of Americans don't have a passport. Do you carry around your birth certificate with you? You should really get out of your comfortable suburban bubble, turn off Fox News, and talk to actual poor people. Your misinformation about basic facts is leading you to support dumb policies. > To pretend every single thing in society is so important to be gated by ID, except voting, is insanity. But yet you're willing to disenfranchise millions of Americans of their constitutional right to vote, in order to stop the crisis of in-person voter fraud that doesn't exist. That it is conflict with the ideals of this country. Meanwhile, I bet you're totally fine with Trump's plan to illegally federalize voting, because the Constitution means literally nothing to you

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hackyhacky an hour ago | parent | prev [-]

> My hunch is you would call me a Nazi

No, I would call you a Nazi for promoting the idea that Jews are organized to replace and outbreed gentiles (as says Musk), for denying the validity of any election that your party loses (as has Trump), for unilaterally seizing powers constitutionally held by the legislature (as has Trump), for using your elected office power to enrich yourself and your friends (as had Trump), for denying that American citizens of different ethnicities are "real Americans" (as has Trump), for attacking non-partisan institutions because they're politically inconvenient (as has Trump).

Popularity is no defense . Nazi opinions were popular in the 1930s, and now they're popular again. They are still Nazi opinions.

You can check voter ID all day, I don't care. This administration has crossed many red lines.

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monero-xmr an hour ago | parent [-]

I believe Musk and most Christians are very pro-Jew, as a Catholic we are extremely pro-Jew and Israel for obvious reasons. The most anti-Jew people I encounter are hardcore leftists and atheists

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hackyhacky 42 minutes ago | parent [-]

Being pro-Jew is not the same as being pro-Israel.

> I believe Musk

Generally, spreading lies rooted in the Protocols of the Elders of Zion about Jewish conspiracies to displace gentiles is not what I would consider "pro-Jew" behavior. Regarding Musk specifically, I have seen no evidence of any kind that he is "pro" anything other than his own self interest. Like Trump, he is a man without principles, religious or otherwise.

> The most anti-Jew people I encounter are hardcore leftists and atheists

What specifically did they do to make you think that? Did they criticize Israel?

EDIT: how fitting that besides coming to HN to defend a fascist billionaire, you are also promoting a crypto scam. That tells me everything about your ethics and political alignment.

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Dylan16807 37 minutes ago | parent | next [-]

Isn't Monero actually private? It's one of the very few cryptocurrencies I wouldn't call a scam. Even if I really dislike speculation and proof of work.

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monero-xmr 25 minutes ago | parent | prev [-]

It’s an absolute fact that the left are the people criticizing and protesting Israel. I don’t even know why you would pretend otherwise, that’s the most ridiculous argument you could make. The antisemites are those worshipping Hamas. Bizarre

	▲	hackyhacky 15 minutes ago \| parent [-]
		> It’s an absolute fact that the left are the people criticizing and protesting Israel That's true, and I never said otherwise. Many Jews criticize Israel as well. Are they antisemites? As I already said, protesting Israel (in particular, the policies of its government) does not make a person anti-Jew, any more than criticizing American policy makes w person anti-American. You conflate ethnic hate with principled opposition to particular unjust policies. Just like Trump, your orange god, you think that anyone who disagrees with you must be driven by irrational rage, rather than principles.