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| ▲ | Volundr 2 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | Ignoring that you've just cut off a whole vector of usefulness, how do I keep it from exfilling my inbox to the Internet in response to a malicious email? Or using its access to take control of my online accounts? Honest question, this kind of stuff is what keeps me from using it. | | |
| ▲ | BeetleB 2 hours ago | parent [-] | | Don't give it access to your email then. I haven't. Plenty of other uses for it! |
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| ▲ | Kriev 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | Bad take. You can rm -rf your entire hard drive, but you can't blame rm for it, it's you who did it, maybe because you don't know, or a mistake, doesn't matter. When you ask the clanker to delete x number of files in a directory, it can reason itself that is easier to just get rid of the directory. Can't expect deterministic outcomes out of a statistical model. At it's current state its a wildcard, sure you can build guard rails, reduce permissions, but it's still a wildcard. Let's not kid ourselves saying is just a skill issue. | | |
| ▲ | BeetleB 2 hours ago | parent [-] | | > When you ask the clanker to delete x number of files in a directory, it can reason itself that is easier to just get rid of the directory. Oh sure, so don't give it write access to anything important. And make backups. Mine is on a VM. It doesn't have access to my host's files. The worst it will do is delete the files on the VM. No great loss. Yes, I do get it to modify things on my host, but only via a REST API I've set up on my host, and I whitelist the things it can do (no generic delete, for example). I even let it send emails. But only to me. It can't send an email to anyone else. | | |
| ▲ | latexr an hour ago | parent [-] | | > So ... don't give it write access to your email? > (…) > Oh sure, so don't give it write access to anything important. And make backups. If this conversation continues much longer, we’ll end up with “don’t use it at all”. If I can’t trust a piece of software with anything important, why am I wasting my time fiddling with it? Might as well go play a video game or go do literally anything else entertaining. | | |
| ▲ | BeetleB an hour ago | parent [-] | | > If I can’t trust a piece of software with anything important Not what I said. As I've repeatedly said in this thread: Plenty of use cases where you don't give it access to email and write access to files. The comment you're replying to has an example of that. > Might as well go play a video game or go do literally anything else entertaining. True of most hobbies, right? I knew people who 20 years ago used to spend time in their garage building solar powered vehicles. But if I can't trust it to be reliable and safe on the road, I might as well go play a video game. Also: Is anyone telling you to use it? |
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